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In the US most students recite "the pledge of allegiance" every morning before school, which is kind of crazy. If you were in charge, what if anything would you replace it with?

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Probably just the New Colossus poem enscribed beneath Lady Liberty.

I actually feel a sense of patriotic pride when I read that.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same vein, make "This Land" the National Anthem.

A lot more down to what music most Americans actually value in their day to day anyways.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, we don’t need a song about war to remind us how we got here, we need a song about togetherness to remind us how we should be.

[–] Noxious@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A pledge to democracy and democratic values

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well it does pledge to the republic and to the values of the republic. Which is appropriate for a republic.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If anything, get them to find/research their own that they identify with and explain what makes it personal to them.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Lol I can't wait to hear everyone recite their respective pledges at the same time

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

Can we make a pledge to be a good and productive person?

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Teacher: "What is best in life?"

Students (In Unison): "To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentations of their women."

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I really can't remember the last time I said it in school, would have been super early on, 1st or 2nd grade back in the 70s. Definitely not after that.

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

hmmm, the tao of bill & ted kinda works for me.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I pledge to be fair, stay curious and stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. To never forget we are a people dedicated to a just and free society for all. To be welcoming and inclusive of all peoples, rich or poor and the regardless if the color of their skin or their faith or gender or sexual orientation. Except Donald Trump. That guy is a jerk.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Decades in the future people only know Donald Trump as "the guy who's a jerk according to the Morning Pledge"

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

Give them 5 minutes with fidget spinners or other fidget toys.

Only half joking, stimming be good for you.

give them shovels, and the person who digs the deepest hole gets given a non monetary prize

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Something based on the scout oath. "a scout is trustworthy, loyal, honest..." Except based on what an American should be. "An American values the opinions of others, is a safe shot with a gun, does not live with someone without their consent, keeps their property secure, demands due process of the law, uses a lawyer, believes in the jury trail, does not apply cruel punishment, believes there are rights we don't know reserved to us, and believes in limited government" (you should find each article in the bill of rights above) Of course better wordsmiths than I should rewrite that, and we probably need a lot of debate.

Note that I never pledge allegiance. As a christian my allegiance is to God and so it would be a lie to pledge allegiance to anything else. Thus making me recite the common pledge is a violation of the first amendment. (this is much clearer if you read the 12 amendments as originally proposed - for better or worse what actually passed isn't as clear)

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

A conga line.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The Pledge of Allegiance... To Science!

[–] BodePlotHole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The Pledge of Ethics?

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

"most students"? "every morning"?

My class only did it until we had it memorized, and then never again.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

An elevator music rendition of the national anthem, if anything is needed at all (or maybe use this opportunity to remind students that individual towns/cities have flags, anthems, and pledges too).

Shower thought: What do deaf kids do for the pledge?

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.bestiver.se 1 points 2 months ago

Pledges reek of authoritarianism to me, so maybe replace it with a common saying like "Be excellent to each other because we have no more or less entitlement to this world than any other being and our individual perspective is at best a tiny viewport not to be confused with reality"

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