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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 134 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So, they're videos.

If only there was a way to watch those.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

They're videos but worse in every way

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there a way to unsubscribe from shorts?

[–] BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can hide them with extensions, I'm pretty sure the one I use is called Unhooked, Revanced also works.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't realize that. Gross.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So they introduced shorts just to... lengthen them? The people behind Youtube are so incredibly lost it's almost unbelievable.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They introduced Shorts because TikTok threatens their monopoly. TikTok raised max length some time ago so they do it too. Now US is going to ban TT and they’re trying to clone some easy to implement stuff in hopes of getting users that won’t move to Instagram. Don’t see that happening because Google doesn't understand what makes TT so popular. It’s kind of funny that TT recently implemented horizontal videos and it’s as half-assed as Google attempt at vertical ones.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like we'll be having the same conversation about YouTube Shorts in 10 years as we are having about YouTube Gaming today.

Which is to say none.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

One can only hope

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They've begun to realize how they're kinda impossible to really make a profit off of.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Not really. I've seen plenty of sponsored YT Shorts, properly tagged and everything so YT's definitely got the infrastructure in place to monetize Shorts. But most sponsors aren't going to pay for a Short because... well, it's too short, so those tend to be few and far between.

However, Shorts aren't profitable for their ability to directly monetize your content, they're profitable for their ability to drive a LOT of new viewers to your longer-form content. The Shorts algorithm is very aggressive at referring you to channels you aren't subscribed to, and that has helped a lot of creators get very large followings, very quickly.

Thor/Pirate Software is an excellent example of this; he's always had a pretty decent following, but once he started putting out YT Shorts, his subscriber and view counts began skyrocketing, which has also overflown into new Twitch subscribers, as well. He started with a small but healthy community, and has blown up into a huge, multi-platform community, and has easily doubled his YT earnings since engaging with Shorts.

Shorts are very helpful to creators right now. More creators need to realize that creating YT Shorts is basically creating ads for your own YT channel, on YT, for free. It's probably the closest thing to "IRL money dupe glitch" that there is.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not that I disagree but how is tiktok doing it?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago

State owned media doesn't need to make a profit

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Can't wait for 10 hour long reviews of Elden Ring, BUT VERTICALE AND LOOPS NOW!?!

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I swear some of those long-form video essays on games have longer runtimes than it would take to just play through the game from start to finish, but that's okay, I'm still here for it. Love me some excruciatingly in-depth analysis of video game minutia.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That being said, that 20-hour postmortem video on Skyrim feels right given how long I'd guess the playtime is on most people's savegames.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A 19 minute video on how you could save one second in a speedrun of one Goldeneye level on hardest difficulty.

https://youtu.be/y9nKhcliPuQ

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[–] danjoubu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Alright, I split the differance, I think that should make everyone happy.

[–] 0oWow@lemm.ee 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I block shorts, so they don’t run anywhere 🤣

[–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use GrayJay/Revanced on Android and Enhancer for YouTube on Firefox (or any browser)

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think that is a setting in freetube. Also some browser extensions can do that.

[–] Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are also uBlock Origin custom filters/rules that block all shorts, at least for Firefox/Firefox mobile and its forks AFAIK.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I need to find a way to block them on Invidious. Shorts just bloat up my Subscriptions page.

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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good news to those watching shorts (I guess) and completely irrelevant information to the rest of us.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 28 points 1 week ago

Sorry I ran out of concentration halfway through your comment. Could you split it up into bite size chunks and spoon feed it to me?

There are dozens of ~~us~~ them (I assume)!

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Top on my premium wish list is a way to disable them completely

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a couple browser plugins that make them vanish completely for me. Main one being "BlockTube".

Only one being buggy is the plugin that should rewrite shart links to regular video links, so I can watch them if someone links them to me, but I can just interact with the video normally

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[–] 667@lemmy.radio 22 points 1 week ago

The very first video on YouTube was 19 seconds.

Then videos got so long they created shorts.

Now shorts are longer than the first YouTube video.

We’ve come full circle.

A three minute short is not a short, it is a video lol

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago

That's not short.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know, if I was going to ask for shorts to go in either direction, I would ask them to be shorter, because short shorts are better.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

short shorts are better

Can confirm, am male and have eyes. 😆

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Who wears short shorts? 🎶

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Eat my shorts!

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, they're going to change the name to YouTube mediums?

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They’re going full Australian coffee. YouTube medium shorts.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

YouTube board shorts?

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 1 week ago

Oh no, I don't think my attention span can handle a full three minutes. That's like, a whole movie.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty soon they'll be 10 minutes, and then longer, and eventually they'll be just like any other YouTube video, except in vertical.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

with no video controls so you just have to watch the whole thing.

oh you missed something, better watch the whole fucking thing again, with ads of course.

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If my shorts were 200% longer, they'd be pants.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Hey, that's longer than I can run.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

They should call those YouTube Capris.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Seems pointless. Just make a longer video.

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