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Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Does it resemble a Dalek on purpose, I wonder?
I think so, lol. Dalek security guards are scary indeed.
He has a license plate reader, he has facial recognition, he can read IP addresses from your cell phone or watch,”
Uhhhh.... How is it reading the ip addresses of people's phones?
I imagine it MITM's the wifi? Obviously wouldn't work with cellular but thats the only this claim can ve even remotely true.
That being said they could do some shit with malicious bluetooth/NFC behaviour
It probably just has a WiFi repeater in it
Someone made a mistake here. It's not getting your IP address. An IP address is assigned by the gateway when you're connected to an access point. An IP address is not an identity. They are always changing and can be shared. This has already been tested and upheld in court.
It's actually collecting your MAC address. Which is exchanged when your phone or tablet scan nearby WiFi points or Bluetooth devices. However, this can already be defeated. By default iOS and Android both have the option to randomise the MAC address in intervals. Making it extremely difficult to prove anything. This feature exists because the devices real MAC address never changes. It is unique. Alternatively, users can disable WiFi and Bluetooth scanning entirely. However, your device no longer participates in the Find My Devices program by Apple and Google, location does take longer to acquire in some scenarios, and accuracy may take longer to triangulate.
I bet it was something like the hardware id instead but she misspoke
One of these hit my car. It was out patrolling randomly in a parking lot and I pulled up to get a better look at it. I stopped like 6 ft in front of it but it just kept on coming and ran into my fucking car.
"You are illegally parked on private property. You have twenty seconds to move your vehicle." -ED-209
Sorry, I laughed. Did it do damage? What was the outcome?
BIG BROTHER advanced to level 3.
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, it's unlikely to brutalize or kill people for minor offenses, so maybe a win for a public space?
I don’t know about you but I don’t like to be watched by big brother all the time.
Right there with you, but there's no legal expectation of privacy in public, so it's futile to complain about on that basis. Especially when ring doorbell cams are everywhere already. So the silver lining is a security robot won't do this.
Unlikely, but there is still a chance. It could always call its pig cousins to brutalize or kill you on its behalf.
EXTERMINATE!!!
CITIZEN! DO NOT BE ALARMED! YOU WILL FEEL A SMALL TICKLING SENSATION AND THEN DEATH!
This is relatively low on my privacy concerns, being that it seems to be patrolling and surveiling privately owned property.
it literally says it reads shit off your phone/other smart devices, you're being tracked
privately owned property
quick, name a space that isn't
First of all if you're too scared to go into a store because you think your car is going to be robbed You're probably too scared to live in public. However from the description it sounds like this thing's just a tall camera? It can't do anything except monitor? So how is this any better than those towers with cameras on them?
All I'm getting out of this is further proof that the "general publics" sense of safety exists entirely removed from anything fact based
exactly my thought
people consumed all these dystopian movies and thought "what a great rubric for society!" we're so fucked lol. These death machines (like drones and such) are also where the most work and funding go for machine learning and AI research too. What could go wroooong
I live under a rock and don't get out much due to physical disability, but I don't see a security improvement. I see a data mining monstrosity and further reason to avoid local retail.
Avoid local retail in favor of what, a website? If you're concerned about the data mining potential of this robot rolling around a strip mall then you should avoid the internet at all costs.
Gaylord fartmaster makes an excellent point.
It's a roving mobile camera. It doesn't get distracted easily or bored or tired and isn't apathetic and It doesn't hate its job. Criminals don't want to be filmed doing their crime.
Normally if you are not actively doing anything provably wrong the mall cops will just kick you out, this thing is going to provide evidence to the actual police.
But I have to admit any significant security advantages that it provides are going to be short-lived while the thieves just change their plan. They'll just have to be faster and more aware of where this thing is, or do a better job of hiding their face.
I wonder if it can be hacked to spin fast in nonstop circles the entire day?
“Sometimes it’d be concerning for your car like someone could take it or something,” White said.
Wow, that couldn't be a better sentence to highlight the layers of meaning in that comment.
I've seen Chopping Mall and know how this is going to end
I'm glad someone else had this thought!
Imagine it had guns and tasers its gonna end horribly
did the engineers install red leds in the eyes? if yes we might have a problem
Can’t wait for the rollout in Philadelphia https://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html
I have a really cute video of my 3 year old daughter chasing one of those through the mall.
If I give the robot a wegie and put a piece of dirty underwear in its head, will it shoot me?
We have protectrons in malls now?!