Fermi Paradox. Are there aliens? Of course. Are they in our current time and local space? Probably not. It's it fun to think about? Yes, that's why science fiction exists.
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More importantly, are they a lifeforms that we would even recognize as alive? The chances of an alien being humanoid are even slimmer. Then there's whether they develop intelligence, whether they care about space, and whether they survive long enough to get anywhere.
If intelligent life exists anywhere else the biggest chance we have of finding anything would be a self sustaining vehicle sent off into space by them at some point. The chances of us being alive at the same time in close enough proximity to encounter each other is almost zero.
If a vessel could wander space endlessly we have a slightly bigger (but still almost zero) chance of encountering it.
The Old "will the Screensaver hit the corner" method
Nono I said ALMOST zero
This was one of the only cool parts of the film Oblivion. Basically if an intelligence can cross that distance to us it would likely be a digital intelligence. That and if you want to fuck humanity without touching them, crack the moon.
Counterpoint, why do dolphins and sharks look so alike when they have a completely different phylogenetic tree? They separately developed traits that were very well suited to the medium of water. Convergent evolution means that it isn't entirely unlikely that whatever we may find has similar traits to beings on earth, because we all exist in a universe of solids, liquids, and gasses.
Counter-counterpoint: both species come from the same tree of life, several of their traits taken for granted come from previous species' adaptation, e.g. bilateral symmetry. When you see, say, a molusk with the same bodyplan as a shark, we can talk about it being a common possibility.
What about the whole crabification thing?
While carcinisation does exist as a phenomenon, I believe all examples involve animals of the same order, i.e. it's even less extreme than comparing a shark and a dolphin.
Ah fair enough.
It's a fair point, but I guess we would recognise them, especially if carbon-based.
Think of another issue. We evolved in 6 million years. Assuming it takes 4 billion for the planet to form and organisms to form, that means there's 8 bln years where civ can start. What's the chance that they are at a similar tech level as us? Really small.
Do you stop to talk to an ant on a field trip?
At this point I just get mad when they say anything about aliens, it is always to take attention away from other important things.
Indeed.
I suspect the same with Area 51. They used aliens to cover up even worse stuff. Like torture techniques, biological weapons and other stuff banned by international accords like the Geneva convention.
Area 51 was used for testing prototype stealth vehicles like the B-2 Spirit, get your conspiracy shit outta here.
Area 51 is there so you don't look for area 52.
Honestly the whole thing felt like glimpses of why the DoD can't pass an audit not aliens.
They were covering up the news about the ocean srreams possibly dying by 2025. They did it to cover up the news that they're officially destroying the planet.
You do realize the media could run a week straight of news about ocean currents dying and half the population would challenge whether or not we even have or need ocean currents.
Ocean "currents"? I ain't never seen no goddamn "currents" in the ocean, boy. Have you? They just be sayin' these things to keep us distracted from how their undloadin' trucks full of illegals in are country to steal are jobs and sell drugs and live off of welfare!
Dey took are jarbs!!
Yeh we ain’t stupid. How would grapes get sundried if they’re in the ocean anyway?
Are you saying the other half wouldn't demand action?
This isn't about what the idiots would do. This is about what leaders would've been asked to do if the headlines were about the oceans and not aliens.
Do not do the shady politicians' job for them and help the distraction work... It was to cover so they could remain lazy.
Lol as if the half that cares has gotten their politicians to do anything about it when they actually have control.
Right, great idea - let's all just give up and jump from the top of a cliff headfirst into rocks. No, wait, what I meant is bad idea. Horrible, horrible idea.
Seriously, stop doing their work for them. The point was to keep the job less stressful. Just because they'd ignore everyone doesn't mean they want to hear all of those calls to action.
And my point is that you can shout until your lungs disintegrate and the only thing that really talks is money. Money you ain't giving them and big oil is.
I agree. My point is putting your lips to their ass to blow raspberries doesn't help. A lot of people view it as unironic ass kissing.
Don't look up!
Also Don't look up how the US military was able to influence that movie! It's uselessly vague or redacted!
Have you tried saying, "come out come out wherever you are" as you menacingly pace with a hunched back
No but I leave a trail of skittles every time I go out to my tool shed
Well there's your problem, it should be Reese's Pieces.
God damn it. I wasted all those skittles for nothing
Nah iev been pretty happy with em please don't stop
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that's how you catch stoners, not aliens
The truth is that there's crazies everywhere. Even in the military
How do you know that truth in particular is the answer?
I don't. But people are acting like one cunt telling a story with no coroboration is a smoking gun. It's not.
If there were aliens, there's zero chance Trump could resist bragging that he knows all about them.
There are military secrets not even presidents are made aware of until necessary.
Truman didn't even know the Manhattan project was a thing for a while
That should scare you. “Leader of the free world.” Oy vey. 🤥
Isn't it funny how every single time there's a huge military fuck-up there's always some kind of confirmation of aliens that pulls everyone away?
Why would the US government be in charge of whether people know about aliens or not?
Because they know what best for us /s
There was a hearing in the Senate too? I only saw the one in the US House. Does anyone have a link?!
I think it was a senate committee but I’m some random on the internet so what I say must be fact