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Donald Trump tried to sidestep giving a policy position on health care, and walked straight off of a rhetorical cliff. 

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Trump struggled to answer a question about his healthcare plan, accidentally revealing that he didn’t have one at all. 

After his particularly lackluster response criticizing Obamacare but giving no alternatives, ABC moderate Linsey Davis asked Trump outright if he knew what he was talking about. “Yes or no, you still do not have a plan?” she said.

I have concepts of a plan,” Trump replied. “I’m not president right now.”

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 130 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Given that the MAGA talking point for the last few weeks has been "but KaMaLa DoEsNt HaVe AnY pOliCies!!!", I legitimately expected that they would have at least prepped him on some kind of policy response. Alas, the floor was wiped with an orange mop.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 79 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, there was never a plan. That’s the whole idea. Remember he was president. He tried to kill ACA without a replacement, always promising a replacement is coming before during and now after his 4 years.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He's been saying he has a plan for almost a decade without ever providing anything.

I swear microplastics or lead have mentally disabled like 40% of the global adult population. Too many people remember nothing.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s been saying he has a plan for almost a decade without ever providing anything.

He said he was gonna build a wall that Mexico would pay for, but weeks after he lost in 2020 every dipshit was talking about the huge border again.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That one kills me. They elected a guy who promised to "Build the wall". I had a neighbor who was in construction and was bragging about how much wall they were building.

Then Trump gets fired and they're back to "our borders are wide open!" Wtf people? I thought you built a wall.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

An coworker at my previous job was parroting the border crisis about 6 months ago. I snarkingly mentioned the orange turd's wall and then he hits back

"But Biden welded doors open in certain parts. So fighting age men from China and Middle East are just walking in"

I sat back and was kiiinda dumbfounded, didn't look it up because he's one of those "I ReAd BoTh SiDeS" people who claims they're the most well informed. I immediately dismissed his statement when an even more blatant right-wing knob-slobber repeates the exact same "fighting age men" comment

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 months ago

Projection. They have no policies, ergo accuse the other side of having no policies.

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

He doesn't need a plan. Half the voters don't care if he has a plan. Plans are for Democrats.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The plan is no plan. tear it all down and let the peasants fend for themselves. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Naw the system protects assholes like trump.

Tearing it all down would give us peasants too much power.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Just saying "The System" absolves the ones abusing it of blame

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s taken him 8 years to form concepts. 🤣

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 45 points 2 months ago

For someone who lies all the time, you'd think he could come up with a better one than, "I forgot my homework, but I promise I did the outline!"

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 78 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one remembers when he was president and he said "who knew how complicated healthcare is!"

He's never had a plan, other than how to get more money.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My favorite is John Oliver’s response:

Everybody knew!

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"I'm not president right now."

Neither is she, dumbass.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

T: "She has no plan!"

Mod: "Do you have a plan?"

T: "Oh, well I'm not president yet so of course not yet!"

Imagine thinking that's a great way to convince people you're the right person for the job...

"I haven't looked into any potential solutions, but vote for me and I promise I'll try to find time to think about it!"

If you were perpetually "two weeks away" from releasing your "beautiful" healthcare plan 6 years ago then wtf are you doing now with nothing?

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[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

MF was pres for 4 years and we’re still joking about “infrastructure week”.

Moreover the entire republican party has been screeching “repeal and replace” and not once put up a plan or alternative to ACA.

They are all mentally bankrupt.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

*Morally bankrupt

These aren't the actions of idiots, they're the actions of a group playing a bunch of idiots. Might seem like a distinction without a difference, but it's there.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

At the end of the debate he accused her of having 4 years in the White House to do the things she said in her closing arguments, and why hadn't she done them already? Yet he has a "concept" of a health care plan AND he claimed earlier he had so much proof that he won the 2020 election. So, Fat Donnie, where is all the fucking proof you have? And why is your lazy con man ass not providing us with a health care plan, or any other plan? It's because you are nothing more than a traitor, rapist, criminal, child molesting, con man liar.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She's had 4 years as VP. He's had 4 years AS PRESIDENT. And he only has the concept of a plan. He's fucking been there and his remarks are all about her not doing things when she wasn't even in that role.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was so mad she didn't get to respond to that, it would have been the perfect ending to make a point and to potentially energize people to vote.

GIVE HER A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS AND SHE CAN!

The whole goddamn reason they can't do what they want to is because we have a Republican lead House.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Instead of forming an actual plan, his fat ass has been shuffling and waddling around golf courses and mumbling about windmills

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I believe he’s actually playing putt-putt golf, the one with the windmills.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This was comedy gold. His inflection was identical to that of a child being called out.

"I caught a Mew in the grass just outside of Pallet Town"

"Oh yeah? Show me your cartridge"

"Ah, I didn't save it after I caught it, my batteries died last night"

[–] splount@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He's been doing this since the beginning. Anyone who has been around a 12 year old should be able to see this.

Go back to when he was asked about his favorite book/part/quote from the Bible. He sounds like a middle schooler who is trying to dance around how he didn't read anything for the book report.

https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE

The ability of half the country to willfully not see this (or just ignore it 'cuz librals are the devil!) astounds me.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The problem is that people keep not calling him out, partly because he always flips the board and walks out whenever you do.

It should be so goddamn easy to reveal every single one of his lies as outright lies (oh, world leaders called you and told you that Kamala sucks? Who? Who specifically did that?) But his superpower has been being able to avoid that. Plus being enabled by his mouthhreathing base who doesn't give a shit if anything he says is true, and by all his fellow powermongers that enable this shit.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

12 year olds don't do this, this is 5 year old stuff.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That Sodom sure was a great guy, Gamorah too, both very fine people, they've been my friends for 40, 50, 60 or maybe 70 years even. And you ask them, they'll tell anybody, that I've done more for them than anyone else in human history.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I totally have a girlfriend she just goes to a different school. In Canada."

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That this orange turd is even in the running as a president is heart breaking for this country.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fact that this orange turd has a chance of actually winning, and how close it is, shows how broken the country is.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

It is insane that he is not laughed out of any room.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 2 months ago

Paraphrasing: "Hillary lost, so now it's time to go away. Go into the woods and enjoy your life, you lost."

If only he followed his own advice... Instead I'm sure we'll be seeing him yet again in another 4 years... The worst of us never die...

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His plan is project 2025 which he can't say when he's tried claiming he has nothing to do with it. But project 2025 has healthcare changes

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[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I'll reveal my beautiful, beautiful healthcare plan for the millions and billions of Americans in two weeks... right after the crooked IRS finishes up my perfect audit." ~tRump

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It will be the best audit, like you've never seen before. Probably the best audit in the world.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We've got hearsay and conjecture. Those are "kinds" of evidence.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago
[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gee, if people had just realized he has no idea what he's doing 8+ years ago we all would've been better off.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I distinctly remember that being a selling point of his first campaign.

He was advertised as a Washington outsider, who had no connections and would drain the swamp.

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

And now it's vote for the senile felon.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have the down payment to purchase this home?

We have the concept of a down payment.

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[–] schnokobaer@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

Wait for instructions from Moscow and go one by one. No plan needed.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

He just needs two more weeks, then we'll have the most beautiful plan this country has ever seen.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's nice to see that at least some people have finally figured that out.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

It’s depressing it took this long, though.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Had concepts of a plan for how to prepare for this debate

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Its like when you fail a dialogue check in disco elysium, except this guy was president and not a hungover party cop

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Give me a raise first, then I’ll do my job ahhh reply

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