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[–] MermaidsGarden@lemmy.world 198 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In Trump’s defense, violating sacred places is one of the only things he’s actually good at

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He's also got quite the knack for disrespecting soldiers.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And the dead. Remember when he buried his ex wife at his golf club so it would qualify as a cemetery and get tax exempt status.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder how many classified documents are buried with her?

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You cant sell them if you bury them.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah I'm sure Trump would never excavate a grave for money.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Or anyone who isn't him. I think he complains that the people who changes his diaper are too rough on him.

Violating women, too

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Violating women ✔️ Violating minorities ✔️ Violating lgbtq+ ✔️ Violating third world countries ✔️ ✅️ Violating federal and state laws ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ Being a treasonous pos while peddling Russian propaganda and their... checks notes... beans? ✔️ x's 10

Violating deceased American war heros graves???? Check ✔️ 😕

Violating the oval office worse that bill and Monica ✔️

Not to mention the many 70 something election/ fraud/ real estate crimes he has committed.

What's next? Is trump gonna break into my house and violate me? Unfortunately he already has, he's violated every single us citizen by infringing upon our rights as Americans and I'll be dammed if I'm gonna let this orange cunt into my house again, bc that's what happens if he wins, we are allowing djt into our homes, our schools, our hospitals and beyond.

My fellow dems, arm yourself, be prepared for the worst

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 190 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

SO SERIOUS.

This? This is the red line? Not January sixth? Or collusion with Russia? Or tax evasion? Or selling bibles he’s autographed? Or any of the federal laws he’s broken? 🙄

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 90 points 1 month ago (6 children)

There's a chunk of the population for whom this is a very big deal, and it's easy to communicate what happened.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right! This is far from the WORST thing he’s done but this plays so poorly with his god-fearing, gun-totin’ patriotism cosplayers.

It’s fine with me. Keep taking L’s donnie!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thing is, they're just cosplayers. You don't obligate yourself to give a fuck about honor just because you dress up like a Klingon.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even the politically obtuse people still honor veterans. This story breaks out of the conservative news silos and the tribal hometown bars.

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[–] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Humans have honored the dead since before homo sapiens. Laws can be complicated, contradictory, and confusing; respecting the dead is clear and primal.

Yeah, this probably won't change a lot of minds, but some folks will see there is something wrong about a man who would dishonor the dead to celebrate himself.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

I really love how you phrased this

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 40 points 1 month ago

"You gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know. Morons."

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every little bit helps

Also it helps that he’s going progressively off the rails as time goes on, so his reaction to getting caught for this stuff is getting less and less hinged month by month

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I think that most Americans, regardless of political affiliation and regardless of how they feel about the various wars we've been in over the centuries, find the idea of using our honored dead as political props profoundly offensive. I personally hope that this is the red line finally and the bastard can start facing some real consequences.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It very well could be the line among his supporters who are members of the armed forces, veterans, and their families.

They might have overlooked all the scandals and outrageous things through his campaigns, presidency, and sedition, but this is where many of them have buried their spouses, grandparents, family, and friends.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Currently seeing it happen, buddies who had overlooked issues in the past have started to look at him negatively. Before it was “he has always treated us right.” Now they might write in Rand Paul.

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[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Just another example that in Trump world only one thing counts: Trump. There are no principles . America does not come first. It’s really just him. Incredible how people can vote for someone like that.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

January 6th is not seen as an insurrection but as citizens banding together to protect democracy. Collusion with Russia was always seen as a false attempt to make him look bad, especially with things like the dossier being faked. Tax evasion is considered smart if you can do it legally, and the New York prosecution for what the industry considers standard practice reinforced the perspective that it was weaponizing the justice system. Autographed bibles are no more sacrilegious than any of the megachurch/televangelist who buys a private jet because God wants him to to.

Each one of those hurtles may take someone out of his camp, but for some that will only be if there is a viable alternative. Keep in mind that the alternative on the democratic side is trying to end their 2nd amendment rights, open the borders to secure a permanent underclass voting block, and lose the national protection of God by persecuting Christians. It doesn't matter to what degree any of that is true, that is the hurtle they have to clear.

Since armed service is venerated more on the right than the left, and has higher percentages of veterans and their children, this might indeed be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some or many. He is grifting in so many areas, that if he is also shown to be a grifter on respecting the armed services in addition to being a false Christian and 1 percenter elite then parts of his base might see him as no better than the Democrats.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The media for the last eight years should just be running a weekly column called "This time Trump went too far and now his supporters will turn on him" and then they can just recap Trump's actions from the previous week. Meanwhile his poll numbers will remain exactly the same as always.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thats assuming the media (especially the broadcast media..) reports on what he did truthfully and with the full details.

Which they rarely, if ever, do.

because they have a vested financial and ratings based interest in the chaos he creates, because it drives ratings and enriches them.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So is this one making it on Network News or is it all online?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Online only. News networks are all in Trump's pocket.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its there. But nothing in the headline about who or what or why it matters. Just enough to be able to say they didn’t bury it.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

Seriously, it's hard to be less informative than that headline.

"Trump Breaks Federal Law By Shooting Campaign Commercial in Arlington Cemetery"...

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do Americans know the history of Arlington? I was quite amazed to learn how it became a military cemetery. Not hanging Robert Lee and the other high-ranking traitors is perhaps the biggest single mistake in US history. He is still the highest ranking US soldier to ever betray his country, no?

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I think Benedict Arnold was a higher rank, but I guess it depends on if the US counted as a "country" at that time. Lee was a colonel when he betrayed the US and became a general under the Confederacy, while Arnold was a general at the time he betrayed the US.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And when you're a maga they'll let you do it. Thumbs up in the graveyard, insurrection in the Capitol, you can do anything.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No shit, right? It's not just Trump. There's a whole lotta people there. Completely free from consequences, every single one.

You can see why, as much damage as they do, how appealing it is to live a life like that. Fuck the living, fuck the dead, fuck the future. Just do whatever you want.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pretty sure if he hasn't been busted for the classified documents thing, he's getting off scot-free for this one too.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

I think the main impact will be to convince a modest but significant slice of voters to not vote for him.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This is more about some number of MAGAts suddenly going “wait a moment”. This is the thing that finally broke through for many.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

That place is full of LOSERS and SUCKERS! WHO CARES?

-Patriotic Republicans!

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Ya know what's a very telling sign that his marriage is in shambales? The fact that Melina never, and I mean never appears next to him on the campaign trails. Hell none of his shit stain sons even show up. What's up Eric, shit stain jr and "barron" trump? Too busy doing blow off of high end escorts to show up??? Djt wouldn't know family values if it slapped him in the face

And before anyone attacks me for bringing barron into this, he did it to himself

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Here's another indication of the state of their marriage.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

His cultists don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck about anything. He didn't lose any votes here

[–] blusterydayve26@midwest.social 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He also appears to have sold nuclear secrets to the Russians, which also sounds sort of important or something.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

one of America’s most sacred places.

What did he do to the Bass Pro Shop Pyramyd?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

And he fucking does not care about it. According to him, the people buried there are "losers", in case you have forgotten.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Thats what violators do. Nothing is sacred except them

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

You know those videos of people talking on their cell phones during the changing of the guards at Arlington, or videos of total, antisocial assholes fucking with the sentry? Those are Trump voters.

They also litter all the time. Every time I see a car throw some giant bag of convenience store food wrappers out the window there's MAGA bullshit all over it.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

I wish it were serious. It's not, because Republicans did it.

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