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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (39 children)

Socialists don't hate markets, they hate workers not having any power or democratic choice in how they interact in the market.

Workers owning the means of production just means the workers are doing the same work but they are in ownership of the factory and the profits. They will still sell the products they produce in a marketplace.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

They will still sell the products they produce in a marketplace.

There is no rule that states they have to sell squat in a marketplace. They could, but they also couldn't. That's the whole point of the workers owning the means of production - the workers involved makes those deicisions, not a capitalist or bureaucratic parasite class.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (88 children)

You literally left Reddit because of what capitalism did to it.

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[–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wtf is an uncorrupt government?

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

All types of governance and economic systems are susceptible to despotism.

It takes a constantly educated and involved population to fight it.

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[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I think you will find any place thats well moderated and cracks down on bigotry and hatespeech will skew left.

Weird how that is, huh?

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (56 children)

The bias is justified. The left is correct. Markets don't create wealth without necessarily simultaneously creating poverty

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

To paraphrase this cool guy named Ernesto: Its not our fault reality is marxist che-si

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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

You'll be happy to know there's a social media site just like lemmy run by capitalists. It has all the benefits that capitalist ownership provides.

[–] Avnar@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

"Uncorupted Goverment" LoL when did that last happen under Capitalism?

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an "uncorrupt government" is remotely possible.

Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

There, now I've pissed off everyone lol

Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really 🤷

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[–] halfempty@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's why I'm here. All the corporate owned social media are blatantly far-right fascists. Everywhere else is just thick with Nazis and racists.

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[–] American_Badass@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I know Hexbear skews very, very liberal. I haven't spent much time in other lemmy places.

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