And what will the US do to prevent it then? Cut funding? Cut military aid? Declare War on Terror?
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What do you mean you won't permit it? You mean you will actually try to stop Israel from doing it? Will you stop giving Israel money?
Or are you just going to do nothing?
No she just means Israel will have to kill them all.
That's what I got from this.
Shitty how politics has become nothing but coded language that we need to decipher to figure out what's really going on.
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Israel: k we'll just kill them all then. Thanks for the money and weapons btw
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This might be the first time I’ve heard a demand imposed on Israel from the US during this recent escalation. Hopefully, the first of many.
i wonder if it was a coincidence it wasnt biden
They make Kamala say all the stuff that they fear might backfire. She was also put in charge of stopping illegal immigration, knowing they really didn't have any way to actually do it.
Mere talk is not "imposing" anything.
The politcians in power in the US are just using talkie-talk to try to hold off potential problems with a significant portion of their natural voters' outright abhorring Genocide and thus being unwilling to vote them back into power in the upcoming elections due to their support for those activelly comitting one.
Talk is the cheapest way there is to project an impression one way whilst continuing to act in exactly the opposite way.
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"Demand" from the otherwise completely powerless VP.
Seems legit
Yeah, it's a long way from sufficient, but this is huge progress from active support for genocide.
Call me when they stop actively supporting genocide. Empty words are empty.
Kinda silly in my opinion. What exactly do they think the systematic destruction of Gaza is? People should live in the rubble?
They can't rebuild since those kinds of tools could be used for weapons according to Israel.
I see a lot of similarities between WWII Jewish ghettos and modern day Gaza. It looks like an aggregate oppressed becomes the oppressor syndrome, but I'm probably wrong.
Uh huh.
And yet she’s giving Israel bombs to destroy people’s homes. Literally forcibly relocating them. Never mind that 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated from their land 75 years ago.
These statements are just cover for more Israeli murder. It’s designed to make people feel complacent.
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Um.... They've already been pushed out of their homes and relocated. That was under the "circumstance" of Israel invading and killing them. I don't think the phrase "under no circumstances" applies here.
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Until the money faucet turns off, Israel will keep doing their thing
Will there be any Palestinians left to relocate when this genocide is over?
That's why the "threat" means nothing.
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Literally way too late for that and forced relocation was one of the myriad of reasons why this bullshit keeps happening.
Did she gave the wink and the nod towards the Israeli delegates during the speech or was it afterwards, backstage?!
How many billions of dollars are they sending to Israel's military so they can genocide the natives again?
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I mean, it’s just going to be like past big conflicts. Where Israel claims people were not forced to relocate.
Folks won’t be “forced,” but their lives and their family’s lives will be at great risk if they don’t relocate - so a lot of people are going to relocate if they have the option. If they don’t, they’re basically sleeping on a shooting range.
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But tut-tutting israel while civilians are left in place to be bombed is fine. But don't you dare move them!
Nobody gives a fuck what the US says. Worthless empty lies and promises.
Except sometimes the threats are backed up if it's convenient enough. The US doesn't always intentionally lie, there's just not much continuity of policies across administrations, so even if one president does genuinely agree to something- they can't really make their successor follow it. Especially if the successor strongly disagrees with them on most things.
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Oh yeah, what are you gonna do, bomb Israel?
Well shit, we couldn’t get Israel to acknowledge or respect borders in the past. There were no consequences then, so why should the Israeli government suddenly start caring now? They’ll take whatever they want, and the most that America might do is make a qualified, watered down complaint while still providing Israel with whatever military aid they ask for.
Oh yes it will.
It ~~always~~ already is with "settlers"
It will happen, whether the US "permits" it or not.
It already has happened and is actively happening as we speak, with weapons, money and intel from the US.
And with US knowledge and permission. This is window dressing to cover for nazis like Netanyahu
Too late?
Based on what's already happened to Gaza, it's time for sentencing
Apparently, there is a time machine that goes back before May 1948. I didn't know that.
I don't think Israel minds the borders of Gaza remaining as is, just as long as there aren't any Palestinians living there. They'll "voluntarily" relocate, for humanitarian reasons, since most of the infrastructure, houses, and hospitals happened to fall down.
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US: No relocations!
Netanyahu: ... Okay...
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Frankly, the scale of civilian suffering, and the images and videos coming from Gaza are devastating,” Harris said at a press conference in Dubai.
Israel said its military campaign in Gaza is aimed at destroying Hamas, the militant Islamist group responsible for the October 7 terror attack that left more than 1,200 Israelis dead and saw another 240 taken hostage.
However, regional leaders like Jordan’s King Abdullah II have expressed concerns that Israel could use the conflict to seize parts of Gaza or expel its Palestinian residents.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told CNN in November that Israel’s security role in a post-war Gaza would be an “over-riding, over-reaching military envelope,” but did not explain what that meant.
During their meeting, Harris and Sisi discussed “ideas for post-conflict planning in Gaza including efforts on reconstruction, security, and governance,” the statement said.
Harris also spoke with the Emir of Qatar after negotiations over resuming a pause in hostilities between Israel and Hamas appeared to break down on Saturday, according to a White House official.
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