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[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gas bubbles from rotting vegetation are the likely cause in this instance. See this article for an explanation:

Lake Ice - Gas Holes

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Looks like the same thing, good explanation.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 105 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are species of seals who actively keep holes open in the ice to use as breathing holes, allowing them to hunt fish even in frozen-over bodies of water.

They're all ocean-dwelling species in the arctic or antarctic oceans, so this isn't the answer to your specific question, but I just think they're neat.

[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before reading the "so this isn't the answer to your specific question, but I just think they're neat." My mind went:

A seal? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within their pond?

[–] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seymour the lake is on fire!

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Seymour's alive! Alive alive alive!

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[–] ALERT@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] josephos@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] astraeus@programming.dev 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of these fish are not looking very healthy

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too many carbs in their diet

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Where I grew up has too many carps.

Their slogan is "Where the ducks walk in the fish."

I shit you not, people line up to throw them stale bread.

The Spillway in Linesville, PA.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I'll get back to you with some readings

[–] e_mc2@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I snorted my coffee, thanks.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not a hydrologist, but I suspect it's due to areas of upwelling warmer water. Alternatively, the ice could have formed, but these spots are where the surface was too unstable to permit that (wind?)

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep, this is it. The ice is thinner in those areas, allowing more heat from the water to reach the surface

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That, or some very adventurous ice fishermen were out already. people who ice fish are a strange lot. In the nearest hole, you can see in the center where it was drilled down. They could be trying a new pond looking for where the fish are laying.

(I wouldn't trust the ice this early in the year with my worst enemy- mostly because they could probably break out on the way back up. shhhh)

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Ice doesn't form with even thickness naturally, when it warms back up outside, the thinner parts melt faster, and it kind of snowballs due to currents created and stuff like that. So even if the thin areas didn't start out that much thinner, they end up melting way faster anyway.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

GOT DAMN LOCH NESS MONSTA I TOLD YOU I AIN'T GOT NO TREE FIDDY

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

My best hyptothesis is that in the center of each of those disks a hole may have been or still is through which pond water is wicking upwards and melting the snow in a circular fashion before freezing and coming to a halt. Hence the almost perfect circular shape and the weird lighter color in the center ... notice the crack in the center of the disk in the foreground?

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] arocketscientist5@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Onion-based aliens.

...........they have layers.

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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Fish ghosts.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Throws dart...

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Geothermal vents, or radioactive rocks.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The one time when "swamp gas" is the answer, and you miss it. For shame...

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Where the fish peed.

That's where decomposing bodies in barrels are releasing gas bubbles as the corpse decomposes. Both because the bubbles are warmer from decomposition and because they disturb the surface of the water, ice formation is disrupted in "warmer below freezing" temperatures.

Source: I'm just winging it bro.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My hypothesis:

So, basic principles out of the way first, dark absorbs more sun, white reflects it. As the snow melts and reveals the darker colored water beneath, this will begin a runaway feedback loop that will slowly melt more and more ice. Assuming it's not too cold out, anyway.

Since this is actually a runaway feedback loop that is going to eventually melt the whole surface of this body of water, we just need to get it started, and everywhere it starts, it'll spread from. All we need, is something that darkens the surface of the snow.

In the case of that center circle, it's hard to make out, but I think I see a stick jutting out in the exact center. A brown stick, no less.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Having been around melting ice a lot I think this is closer to the right answer. Also decomposing things give off heat. Any vegetation that is decomposing will accelerate ice melting.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

most likely due to varying depth. More shallow will stay warmer I believe because the earth holds temperature longer.

Source: I have a ground source heat pump, which is equivalent to saying I stayed at a holiday inn last night. But it might still be true.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Prezhotnuts@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Some stormwater management ponds have aeration systems.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Swirls in the water?

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bird? Snowball? Looks more "soggy" than melted, necessarily.

It is a neat effect. Have you tried making your own melt circle?

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Air bubbles I think. Keeps the water moving.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Now i want to know the answer 😫

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just in case you are interested, here is a similar phenomenon - photographed on the moat of Leeds Castle in Kent, UK - back in Jan 2010

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