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[–] Opafi@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago

So let's just hope they'll have plenty of Fuchs to give.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They are going to build the Fuchs and the Luchs? The Luchs has ben decommissioned by the Bundeswehr and replaced by the Fennek and the Marder quite some time ago. It was, however, impressively silent. With all auxiliary aggregates turned off (but the main diesel idling), and rolling slowly on sand, it could literally tap you on the shoulder with its 20 mm autocannon before you would hear it. The Fuchs is just an armoured personnel carrier with no armament. Both are amphibious, which may become important.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(Rheinmetall_armoured_fighting_vehicle)
No. It's an export IFV similar to the Puma... The US are likely to use a variant of it to replace their Bradleys in the future too.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] TheMechanic@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Country defense is oriented around the most likely attack in the near future. Once Russia is defeated and this war is over, the most likely invader is still Russia. So they are planning on what will defend against what Russia has now.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nope... that's a translation mistake. Or rather a mistake of translating Fuchs to Fox in the text implying Lynx is also a translation...

It's not. They are talking about Rheinmetall's KF41 Lynx. Their modern IFV (with a lot of elements from the Puma minus the Bundeswehr specific stuff - basically the closest thing to an Puma export model), which Hungary ordered ~200 of iirc (produced domestically) and which the US is also evaluating right now as one of the last contestents in one of their IFV tenders.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. It was my mistake then, as they didn't translate Fuchs. I just happen to know Fuchs and Luchs from personal experience, and just assumed.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

They indeed wrote "on the construction of Fuchs armored transport vehicles - named after the German word for fox - and Lynx infantry fighting vehicles by early next year" which of course isn't wrong but might help to confuse.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BERLIN, Dec 1 (Reuters) - German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall AG (RHMG.DE) wants to build its first armored vehicles in Ukraine next year, Chief Executive Armin Papperger was cited as saying by German magazine WirtschaftsWoche.

Papperger said he expected a deal with Ukraine on the construction of Fuchs armored transport vehicles - named after the German word for fox - and Lynx infantry fighting vehicles by early next year.

Ukraine had announced in October a joint defence venture with Rheinmetall AG to help with the local production of some key equipment as well as to service and repair Western weapons sent to Kyiv against Russia's full-scale invasion.

Ukraine relies heavily on financial and military support from the West, which has poured in tens of billions of dollars of weapons since Russia launched its full-scale invasion in February 2022.

Ukrainian officials hope cooperation with Western arms producers can help revive a domestic arms industry plagued by inefficiency and lack of transparency for years before Russia's invasion.

Kyiv also wants to try to reduce its reliance on Western aid, create an additional boost for the economy and speed up ammunition supplies to the front to support its counteroffensive against a bigger Russian army.


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