I love thumb-key with the two-hands symbols and numbers layout
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2024
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We need to see a screen recording, with screen touches showing, of you using this...
https://files.catbox.moe/emce3c.mp4
I'm not very good at it yet I've only been using it for a month or so
Okay that's wild! Props to you for being able to pull that off!
I'm with you. That looks like someone hacking into the mainframe.
Wot
It has a number of benefits over a normal keyboard:
- No need for autocorrect since the buttons are so large that it's hard to accidentally press the wrong one
- It's symmetrical so both thumbs can type any letter, so you can type faster, in fact the world record typing speed on a phone was set on a one-handed version of this, i'm sure with the two-handed you can go even faster
- Pretty much everything I need can be hit without switching to another layout (no need for a symbols page)
- The other features of the keyboard are easily accessible, like, copy/paste/select all/undo/redo etc.
It's awesome, it's foss, and not a keylogger like most keyboards.
I love Heliboard it is a fork from Openboard. It has themes and is 100% offline
It's there a better swiping library for heliboard? The one they suggest is a lot worse than gboard's.
That's odd, it should be identical. The library linked in their FAQ is a package extracted from Google apps.
Maybe it's an old package? The quality is noticeably worse.
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Does it have the things I called out as liking about Gboard?
- Customizable, yes
- Gif, no
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The amount of people on here that are okay with a corporation phoning home everything you type is a bit scary. Googles Gboard and Microsoftβs SwiftKey are a privacy nightmare. Check out FUTO: https://keyboard.futo.org/
- always offline
- voice input
- swipe typing
- predictive text
- auto correct
- personalization
I kind of hate takes like these because its such a false equivalence. People aren't OK with it, but the vast majority of people don't have time to fight this battle when every single aspect of modern technology is in a constant arms race to do more and more surveillance.
It's great there are people like you who want to promote more private alternatives, and even better that people are making more private alternatives, but the reality is most foss apps are far inferior user experiences to corporate apps. Until that changes it's always going to be an uphill battle to convince people to switch, and it's not because they're "ok with corporate surveillance". That isn't even in the calculation to begin with and it's not making any friends or building any bridges to imply that about people. You would help your cause a lot if you took a less judgemental approach to spreading the word about it.
Sorry for the soapbox, but I see this attitude on here a lot and it really misses the mark and does damage to an otherwise worthy cause (spreading the word about better software). I don't think you mean anything bad when you say this, but I just want you to understand how it comes off to people who aren't invested in that lifestyle.
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Thanks. I'll give it a try. I'd never found an alternative to Gboard that works as well when it comes to swipe typing, learning words missing from the dictionary, Japanese flick / handwriting input, and one-handed mode. It'll be big if this is finally it.
Edit: works well for an alpha. UI is unexpectedly polished. Gesture typing needs to get better, there's no one-handed mode yet and I need an option to shrink the UI a bit because right now it's huge. I'm really impressed with it so far though. Really nice that you can customize dictionaries and action buttons and stuff. Not quite baked enough for me yet but I see huge potential. I bought the premium version to support them and will be cheering for them while staying on Gboard for now.
This is the first non gboard keyboard that I don't immediately feel uncomfortable typing om
Holy shit thanks for the suggestion.. I've been using Swift Key for years and tried other keyboard apps but none convinced me so far, so i've simply used Netguard to try to block Swift Key as much as possible. I'm currently typing using Futo and while I still miss some stuff (can you show the symbols on the keys as well? See screenshot). I already like it!
I fucking hate Gboard spelling correct feature, it's completely useless. I often ended up google the word (ironic isn't it) to get the correct spelling.
A little context, English is not my native language so sometimes I got trouble spelling some words. For example the other day, I couldn't remember how to spell "aesthetic", I did type in "asthetic" along with a few other variation, but all I got from the "suggestions bar" was "authentic" "asthenic" "asthma" "asthenia".
So I gave up and type "asthetic" in Google and it knew immediately and correct it to "aesthetic".
Yeah it's horrible. Then I turn it off and realize that it's somehow even worse without it.
Thank you for this (repeated) question! I will try some of these and collate my experiences.
- SwiftKey
Long-time fan, in spite of privacy concerns. My bar for comparing everything below.
- FUTO
First install, looks promising.
Indeed very customisable. What I don't like is the (imho) far inferior swipe typing and the need to explicitly switch languages for the keyboard to use the appropriate dictionary. Also, I miss directional buttons for those single-character position adjustments (Futo only offers space-key swiping). Voice typing seems highlighted but I find it to be unbearably slow.
Verdict: will most likely uninstall again.
- OpenBoard
Installation somehow defaulted to "English (Australia)", but no biggie.
Seems very customisable also, but lacks swipe typing (a deal beaker for me). Relies on the OS language (actually, keyboard) switcher and curiously lacks a shortcut to its settings (requiring the user to go so the rest through the Settings app (which, best-case, is a whopping 5 taps).
Verdict: privacy aside, cannot compete with SwiftKey for features and usability.
- Florisboard
Strainghtforward installation. Seems extremely customisable. No swiping nor autocomplete but both festures are clearly promised for a future release.
Verdict: apart from features promised in the future, thus seems an excellent keyboard.
- Heliboard
Straightforward installation. Language selection included a github redirect to manually download dictionary, which was semi nice.
Proper big-keyed numerical keyboard. Also extremely customisable. Space-key swiping even supports vertical movement.
Verdict: apart from lack of swipe typing, probably the best contender!
- Graffiti
Included because I friggin' loved it back in the day. The (to my knowledge) only app offering graffiti input is badly broken and crashes immediately on modern Android versions. I remember it working quite well on earlier versions, but that was years ago.
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I use Gboard. I really want to like the FUTO keyboard, but it unfortunately sucks for typing. Not sure what magic secret sauce Gboard has, but with the FUTO keyboard I basically mistype almost every word. Maybe Gboard has some tap target corrections or something? I've tried pushing through with the FUTO keyboard for about a month, but I think I'm ready to uninstall it. )`:
FUTO Keyboard. Its newer. Still needs improvements to gesture typing. Overall I like it.
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It took a few weeks to get used to it and a few more to get comfortable, but now I don't think I can go back. Before when I messed up, I would keep repeating the mistake until I was forced to slow down. Now I can get 40-50 WPM when I try.
I do miss some things but they really aren't deal breakers:
- Clipboard History
- Emoji Search
- Autofill Integration
I love this too! However I switched to FlickBoard, which employs the same concept but has more features. For example, I can put the number keys left to the letters. I encourage you to give it a try!
https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/se.nullable.flickboard
SwiftKey for swipe texting
Unexpected Keyboard
https://github.com/Julow/Unexpected-Keyboard
Available on F-Droid
You can pretty much configure the whole layout. Not sure about gif support though.
FlorisBoard Beta. Works and gets the job done. Also has a nice UI.
Ive tried multiple ones but I keep going back to Samsung keyboard just because it works so dam well.
Just recently installed Gboard, because stock Samsung keyboard is so trash it gives me headaches.
I want to like futo but I think it just needs more time. I'm using Gboard without the Internet access turned on (I'm using graphene OS) so I'm not worried about Google knowing anything I type.
I mostly use the swipe to text feature and I just haven't found another keyboard that does it better than Gboard (unfortunately)
SwiftKey. Yes, I hate it being from Microsoft. But has most of the pros already mentioned in this thread and a some important features (for me) that I haven't found with other keyboard:
I text a lot in Spanish, Portuguese and English; sometimes in French. I can use any of those languages with any preferred layout (qwerty, azerty) or as I do, Spanish layout as a base but from there, I get all characters needed to write properly such as Γ±, Γ§, Γ¦, Γͺ.
Prediction is outstanding, I can start a phrase in one language and continue with other and still get very accurate suggestions. It has been my default keyboard long before Microsoft acquired the company and, for now, big corporate enshittification has been slow. En conclusión y para sumarizar: j'aime bien le SwiftKey clavier, ele tem funçáes que nenhum outro tem.
Gboard. I want handwriting for Chinese and afaik no foss keyboard has that.
I use FlorisBoard Beta with the Material You theme. It looks amazing.
FUTO Keyboard also looks very pretty, but it's a bit bloated.
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