Perfect example that vast majority of narcotics enter the country through LEGAL checkpoints and NOT via migrants crossing the border as Trump and GOP like to fear monger
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not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented
It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.
Or illegal immigrants are more likely out of their population (about 10 million) to commit a violent crime.
The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.
Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.
This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.
Dollar for dollar, hedge fund managers, bankers, CEOs and such like are far more prolific thieves than those in poverty.
(It’s kinda how they got wealthy…)
Yeah, I don't disagree.
But again, that has nothing to do with what's been discussed here.
For starters, this is about violent crime and it's not about the inherent criminality of any group of people.
It's about stats and why this particular statistic is critically flawed, and bogus.
Incorrect, wage theft is the most common committed crime if we're talking about 'counts of crime' instead of just reporting.
Uh....what... incorrect...?
This entire thread was spawned from someone posting a statistic relating to violent crime rates amongst different population groups.
Financial crimes, wage theft, jaywalking, or any other criminal act you can think of, that isn't categorized as a "violent crime", is irrelevant when the discussion is about one specific flawed violent crime statistic....
Real, scientifically backed, crime stats actually say the exact opposite of your claim. It turns out cops are racist as fuck, and are so much more likely to interact with and cause trouble for people of color whenever the opportunity presents itself that it’s not even a question. https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/05/veil-darkness-reduces-racial-bias-traffic-stops
There's a lot of assumptions here.
Significant isn't specific. A specific number would give us an idea if the rate of crime committed by undocumented persons exceeds, meets, or continues to fall short of the other two groups.
Next, you're assuming that the victims of violent crimes by undocumented workers are other undocumented workers. This, to some degree makes sense. But it's not 100%.
Next, poverty in of itself isn't sufficient to predict rates of crime. Crime is a choice taken when there aren't other avenues available. Arguably, the reasons undocumented peoples move here is because their prospects are better here. That is to say, they chose to leave their people to come here instead of staying there and commiting crime. This isn't, obviously, specific. But it's a factor you didn't consider.
Finally, what do you mean by class? There's a lot of usages.
This isn't an argument to say you are wrong. It's an argument that you have been specific or open to other factors.
Do you say the same thing when stats are used to demonize immigrants? You apply the same level of skepticism?
They really seem to not care about anything other than the migrants.
“But they will take my cookies!”
Today on Tasting History we're making pervitin, the stimulant that fueled the third reich
I thought my tuna salad had a kick to it
The agency had learned about a semitrailer coming across the Mexican border, and agents tracked the drugs to the farmers market, said DEA Special Agent in Charge Robert Murphy. The drugs were found inside the truck, he said.
“This was contained in a cover load of celery,”
So unfortunately not inside the celery itself, which would of course be significantly more fun :(
Now I'm wondering if you could get celery to soak up a drug solution since it's so watery, then extract the drugs again later
Pretty crazy that imported food is finding it's way into a farmer's market in the first place. My local farmers market is pretty stringent on what is allowed and eant proof that your produce or wares were produced within 100 miles of the city.
It was likely not the final selling point, just a convenient place with lots of trucks and people to blend into. May have had one guy with a stall, but it was more likely a place to split it into other shipments.
Don't knock it until you've tried it. I lost 87 pounds in 2 months on the meth and celery diet. The twitching and sores are totally worth it.
Y'all got anymore of that celery?
At least the junkies are eating healthy.
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