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[–] KingBoo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

People don't realize how important the outcome of this court case will be.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Man, america is wild place. Do you have any laws there?

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Only the ones that are written for and protected by corporations. Everything else is the wild Wild West.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Most Americans would be offended by your comment, and that’s why we don’t have nice things. We’re very, and I can not stress this enough, VERY stupid.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's the law that the businesses get to screw you.

Oh yeah and every infant is assigned an assault weapon at birth.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah and every infant is assigned an assault weapon at birth.

Man, here voenkom has to find you and give you povestka to assign you assault rifle.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It will likely be dismissed as Disney wasn't the company responsible for staffing or managing the restaurant.

Which sucks, because I desperately want to see Disney take another massive L in the spotlight of the mainstream news cycle.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

It's certainly going to cause a reaction.

[–] Overwrite1@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Disney probably doesn't care if this argument holds in a court of law. If it does, jackpot, they now have a get out of jail free card due to case law. Their main objective is to wear down the plaintiff financially or mentally so that they drop the case.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arbitration clauses must be made illegal

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Or at least reasonable.

It's perfectly reasonable for, say, a tattoo artist not to be liable for the medical bills, if the ink causes a hitherto unknown allergy to kick in.

It's not reasonable to argue that a streaming service agreement covers liability for being cut in half by a train.

There has to be a reasonable understanding of the underlying risks that are covered. Some things are just inherently risky, and if the buyer knows and understands that, she can agree on taking that risk. Otherwise, no doctor would ever touch any patient ever again.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Otherwise, no doctor would ever touch any patient ever again.

Demonstrably false. In a public healthcare system it is also possible to have publicly funded patient injury compensation systems. Source: Live in Norway and we have both.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That's not the same. You still don't have any legal claims against the hospital or the doctor. You can't sue your surgeon, because you missed, say another week of work because of some unexpected bleeding.

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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Make sure to pirate all Disney media instead of consuming it legally so that you can sue them if they try to kill you.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That’s what I don’t get about this. The point is either to get out of paying or at least make it very difficult. At the same time the cost to Disney as a company with all the bad press and fall out from doing this would be orders of magnitude greater than simply paying the widower compensation. Who signed off on it? The idea that a lawyer can do what ever it takes to win a case while simultaneously destroying the company they work for seems dumb as shit from a purely financial point of view.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Jesus... You're not wrong. That's fucking crazy. You're NOT wrong. Wtf is wrong with my country?

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there any good magnet urls to Disney's whole collection?

[–] texasspacejoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Google this hash info: EF4211584F37CA70A4B1A2E47E7E833C79ABACBA

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[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Even more ridiculous is that according to this article the agreement even extends to the free trials, even if they don't extend past the trial period.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jl0ekjr0go

[–] zarlin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disney allowed to kill your spouse because you watched the mandalorian

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Not the worse trade off. As long as we aren’t including Season 3.

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[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

How the fuck is it not punishable to write stuff into those contracts that contradict the law (obv. i mean this past a certain company size). Like for real.

Edit: Typo

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not exactly sure that it DOES contradict the law, which is the problem.

My hope for this case is that it sets the precident of crushing their bullshit terms of forced arbitration before this happens again and deems terms like these unenforcable. To date, I'm not aware of anyone challenging this in court - meanwhile every company in the country is adding terms like these to their software agreements. So let's throw this shit out for good.

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[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disney said late Wednesday that it is “deeply saddened” by the family’s loss but stressed the Irish pub is neither owned nor operated by the company. The company’s stance in the litigation doesn’t affect the plaintiff’s claims against the eatery, it added.

“We are merely defending ourselves against the plaintiff’s attorney’s attempt to include us in their lawsuit against the restaurant,” the company wrote in an emailed statement.

For some reason that word "merely" just gets right under my skin. Like they KNOW it's peak slimy, but they are just trying to do their job, man.

...Which is to protect the company at the expense of anything else: Reason, decency, consumer rights...

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, isn't them invoking the arbitration clause a direct admission of guilt? Had they just came to court and said "we have nothing to do with it" they might've just gotten away with it. Like this, they literally drag themselves into the suit and say you can't sue me. Not a good look.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the fact that it looks like Mickey is pissing over the disney logo in this image

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, even though D+ wants to apply their TOS to the theme parks, if you buy a D+ gift card, those funds cannot be used at any of the theme parks lol.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/experience/theme-parks/2023/12/20/disney-plus-gift-card-accident/71995807007/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR3X1rH7JlfCdnTUyz73bhi5SLAEpTyc0vpA-zpL64nbOD9Ri9t7952jcDo_aem_K3wbukZX1gCnJQzBb3Biuw

I can't believe this is even a fucking thing

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's no way this gets dismissed, right? The precedent this would set would be unimaginable...

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I dunno, it depends on how many supreme court justices disney can afford I guess.

[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Piracy is the safe option then. Got it.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Piracy, watching through a friend, BluRays & DVDs, hard copies & actually owning something as opposed to...perpetually renting access, owning nothing & being happy about it.

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[–] letme_meowmeow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

yeah, that work like a trap.

Sign up for one service with arbitrate ... that would apply for all service.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

How can a streaming service agreement apply to a restaurant ~~in a park~~?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't even in a park. The restaurant is in a separate mall. No ticket needed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

A mall owned and operated by Disney, with Disney branding everywhere, and store names heavily influenced by Disney properties, like "BB Wolf's Sausage Co.", and where "Guest Services" is managed by Disney, and the property rules are Disneyworld's property rules.

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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It would cost Disney literally pocket change to compensate the widower, but instead they rather spend hundred of thousands of dollars for lawyers and legal fee to fight it.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

Now THAT is bad PR. Wow. Going to be hard to top it.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I sincerely hope this shit blows up. May corporations providing "free" services forever be associated with literal devil's contacts. Piracy is no longer just about sticking it to the man, it's about freedom!

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] lulztard@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Just 'murica.

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