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The Best way to switch to Linux is to NOT (lemmy.world)
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Okay I know this sounds like click bait but trust me switching over to linux requires you to first master the open source software that you will be replacing your windows/mac counterparts with. Doing it in an unfamiliar OS with no fallback to rely on is tough, frustrating and will turn you off of trying linux. DISCLAIMER: I know that some people cannot switch to linux because open source / Linux software is not good enough yet. But I urge you to keep track of them and when so you can know when they are good enough.

The Solution

So I suggest you keep using windows, switch all your apps to open or closed source software that is available on linux. Learn them, use them and if you are in a pinch and need to use your windows only software it will still be there. Once you are at a point where you never use the windows only software you can then think of switching over to linux.

The Alternatives

So to help you out I'll list my favorites for each use case.

MS Office -> Only Office

  1. Not for folks who use obscure macros and are deep into MS Office
  2. Has Collaboration and integration with almost all popular cloud services..
  3. Has a MS Office like UI and the best compatibility with MS Office.

Adobe Premiere -> Da Vinci Resolve

  1. It is closed source but available on linux
  2. Great UI, competitive features and a free version

Outlook -> Thunderbird

  1. Recently went through massive updates and now has a modern design.
  2. Templates, multi account management, content based filters, html signatures, it is all there.

Epic Games, GOG, PRIME -> Heroic

  1. Easy to use, 1 click install, no hassel
  2. Beautiful UI
  3. Automatically imports all the games you have bought

PDF Editor -> LibreOffice Draw

  1. Suprisingly good for text manipulation, moving around images and alot more.
  2. There might be slight incompatibilities (I haven't noticed anything huge)
  3. But hey, it's free

How do I pick a distro there are so many! NO

So finally after switching all the apps you think you are ready? Do not fall into the rabbit hole of changing your entire OS every two days, you will be in a toxic relationship with it.

I hate updates and my hardware is not that new

  1. Mint - UI looks a bit dated but it is rock solid
  2. Ubuntu - Yes, I know snaps are bad, but you can just ignore them

I have new hardware but I want sane updates

  1. Fedora
  2. Open Suse Tumbleweed

I live on the bleeding edge baby, both hardware and software

  1. Arch ... btw

Anyways what is more important is the DE than the distro for a beginner, trust me. Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, etc. you can try them all in a VM and see which one you like.

SO TLDR: Don't switch to linux! Switch to linux apps.

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[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Was ready to downvote but this is actually a really good guide, well done OP! The one issue I will raise, though, because I faced it myself, is that as long as you're still using Windows, it is way too easy to just go back to using the Windows programs not the open source ones. Only through switching to Linux can you really "throw yourself into the deep end" and force yourself to learn these new things. Microsoft has made themselves the "path of least resistance" (or at least that of "most momentum" for a reason) and if you've been using a computer for a while, it's a lot easier to break the habits and realise the benefits by giving yourself no other option than it is by trying to discipline yourself into using the new options.

[–] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

For me, inkscape is the easier PDF editor.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Another option if you have a laptop and desktop is to test the waters slowly with the laptop, and keep your desktop as is. It's what I did for a long while to get used to things on Linux.

If there is a critical problem with my Linux instalation on my laptop, it's OK because all the real stuff I care about is still on the desktop. So I'm free to wipe the laptop at a moments notice. It's the easiest way to learn in my experience.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

Use libreoffice over open office.

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I want to use Thunderbird but my university won't let me log into my email outside of Outlook... So dumb.

[–] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stop recommending OnlyOffice.

[–] glaber@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's bad about it? It has better compatibility from my experience, and the UI doesn't look ass. I'm a big fan of LibreOffice, but unless you're only editing OpenDocument Format files it doesn't work that well most of the time (and even if you are... I have tried, but god, does the OpenDocument Foundation need some money funneled into it. I never get .ods to work the way I want to)

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The solution that solves ODF compatibility issues is to not allow applications that do not adhere to the standard. In other words, to explicitly disallow the use of Microsoft products. It's not by accident that MS Office products are slightly fucking up documents, it's by design.

Since many companies use MS Office, when they do a pilot to see if they can use ODF, it ends up "causing problems". If anyone tries to use it in a mostly Office based workspace, it'll also "causes problems".

MS only has very good reason to always be just subtly off, and everything to lose if they aren't.

[–] soundconjurer@mstdn.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

@okamiueru @glaber , well it is an issue to fuck up by design. There are third party plugins for ODF for MSO that work better than its own implementation.

I am forced to use MSO for work, but it's LO for everything else of mine.

Edit: One should also see what they can do to make Microsoft improve/fix their ODF implementation since it is an ISO standard. There has to be something to get that ball rolling.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

should also see what they can do to make Microsoft improve/fix their ODF implementation since it is an ISO standard. There has to be something to get that ball rolling.

The answer to this should be the same as when some standard S is implemented in software X, Y, Z. If Z doesn't follow the standard, blacklist it until it does. That's the whole point of having a format standard, that it shouldn't matter what software you use.

If people, companies, institutions and governments have this stance and attitude, MS will need to compete on actual user experience, and not degrading the UX of the competition.

They'd get their shit together mighty fast. I'd expect them to lose too. Software to edit documents isn't complicated. If we can have things like blender, which I'd say is about 3-4 orders of magnitude a greater endeavour, for which use case has the inverse potential user base, it's pretty obvious that the only reason that MS Office is a thing (i.e. in raking in billions in license fees... 49 billion USD in 2022), is shady business practices.

It still pisses me off that in my country, when they had a group of experts make the evaluation of which document standard to follow, all experts agreed on ODF. But, because of shady MS money being thrown around, they ignored the recommendation, and went with DOCX.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just dual boot

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just be aware that windows has a bad habit of fucking up for Linux when you do. Which sounds like it shouldn't be possible, right?

Windows can claim hardware resources that it doesn't release properly, so your WiFi adapter doesn't work in Linux, but works fine in Windows. Windows also (used to, at least) "correct" a boot partition, because, I presume, it sees something "unknown". Oh, and the system clock might be off every time you switch between one and the other, because windows thinks it makes sense to write the current timezone value and not UTC.

Those kinds of things.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

I keep a win10 virtual box available when I need excel while in Mint. Otherwise I’m good. Have win10 set as dual boot but switched main boot to Mint once I got used to it.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand the difficulty. My kid who used Windows for at least 7 years installed Ubuntu and just started using it. Why is this difficult for people? I helped him boot the computer from a USB stick and that's it.

Here is the app store, install programs from here.

Ok.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think some folk want to pretend using Linux is hard so that they can feel more... Uh... Technical for using it.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's actually hilarious how disconnected some Linux folks are lmao

The average person

  • doesn't know what an operating system is
  • can barely work with windows, has had many struggles learning windows
  • is scared of change
  • doesn't know about the existence of a BIOS
  • will never be able to boot anything else but default by themselves
  • doesn't know how to troubleshoot anything about computers
  • literally does not know or care about the existence of Linux

I know these things are changing, but anyone saying people are able to switch to Linux by themselves and its easy and doable for the average person is fucking delusional, this post is one of the most reasonable takes I've seen on the sub

[–] netvor@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We can all get smart and snarky about "average persons" but then again, who says the OP was for average person.

Your "average" person is not even on Reddit, let alone Lemmy, and if by chance they stumble along they are probably not clicking posts like this.

So when you stop laughing from "hilarious disconnected Linux folks", maybe sleep on it, then try thinking about this.

In context of this community and this thread, no, Linux is not all that horrible compared to Windows.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

then again, who says the OP was for average person

Nobody, the post is to aid us who are assisting other people to switch. I'm saying people here vastly overestimate the average persons ability AND willingness to actually switch, by themselves or assisted.

Linux is not all that horrible compared to Windows.

It is, in part because Linux is not beginner friendly but mostly because everyone is used to windows. Almost every program they've used is exclusive to it, which is why this post provides a path to eventually introduce them to Linux. Using Linux isn't hard, using it the same way people are used to is. As is troubleshooting and installing 3rd party applications.

So when you're done building strawmans, go touch some grass

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network -1 points 3 months ago

Or just install Linux.

[–] geoma@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Being a linux user for 23 years and a linux promoter and installer for newbies, I don't agree with so many of your recommendations and priorities.

[–] micl@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Seriously, OP sounds like they taste tested a handful of open software options and wanted to share, but had to implicate the newbie decision of windows vs Linux somewhere.