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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 107 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mentioned this in another thread, but this only applies to their "Team Pixel" ambassador program. Those aren't actual reviewers, they're contracted by Google's PR firm, specifically to promote their product line. They're not coming after MKBHD and the likes with this. This is just part of their sponsorship agreement.

Worst case scenario in this situation is a few lifestyle vloggers will stop getting free phones.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The second half of the article goes into that a bit. Seems like some reviewers were also grouped into that program before, and the terms weren't like this before.

The Verge spoke with other independent reviewers and freelance tech journalists who say that they were grouped into the Team Pixel program for review units in the past. For those in the latter group, the new stipulation is a threat to their integrity and livelihood. Matlock says he’s since quit the Team Pixel program over the new terms.

YouTuber Kevin Nether, who runs The Tech Ninja channel, also says the clause led him to quit the Team Pixel program. “As someone who reviews technology for a living, I work with many brands. To be cornered into using one product — that doesn’t work for me, and that’s nothing I want to participate in.”

Nether echoes that he’s never seen this kind of stipulation in previous Team Pixel surveys. Usually, he says, the survey gauges a creator’s interest in various topics, like sports or fashion, to identify areas for collaboration. In the past, he says he’s made it clear to Team Pixel representatives that outside an obligatory post, he will review the device as normal. Nether also says this exclusivity term is atypical. Usually, when brands demand exclusivity from creators or brand ambassadors, they’ll offer payment, have clear disclosure rules, and have limited timelines.

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

I dunno, I got invited to it and I read through the application forms, which looked very similar to the ones they're posting screenshots of now. Back when I first looked at it a few years ago, it seemed pretty clear that the whole deal was "we'll give you free phones if you advertise us to your community". The application process focused very heavily on determining what sort of following the applicant has, how receptive they are to calls to action, etc.

As far as I can tell, the only thing that's changed is that Google is saying the quiet part out loud, which I would imagine is because a member likely bad-mouthed the product and raised a stink about getting cut off from the freebies. Not to sound victim-blamey, but if anybody in this programed was disillusioned into thinking it was anything short of "be our unpaid advertising monkeys", then they must not have even taken a cursory glance at the description before signing up.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

Thank you for sharing that information.

Then it really does seems like some reviewers were just entering the grey zone willingly, to get phones intended for advertisements and used them for reviews anyway.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

Click bait title for sure.

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The only reason I am buying Pixel devices is the amazing third party os / rom support (especially GrapheneOS).

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same. I don't care about the camera or AI features, the speakers could be louder, and a few other nitpicks, but it supports GrapheneOS, has a long SW support cycle, and has some great security hardware, so I bought one. I actually kind of prefer my older, crappy Moto phone in some ways, but I'm unwilling to use an insecure device, and ROMs aren't supported (well, I guess I could sign an abusive agreement).

So yeah, Pixel wins for me because of GOS and longer SW support. That's honestly it.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could try the fairphone

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I could, but I'm in the US, and only the Fairphone 4 seems to be available, and that has limited updates left. I'm also not sold on /e/OS, but it's probably fine.

[–] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'm in the US. I bought the fairphone 5 and it works fine with Mint Mobile, T-Mobile mvno. I got it to replace my LG V20. Both have replaceable batteries.

[–] Krzd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

~~Fairphone can run GOS just fine btw.~~ eOS is just also "approved" by fairphone themselves

EDIT: no they don't, I was wrong

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could give the fairphone a try

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Too expensive for the hardware provided in my opinion.

[–] Krzd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You definitely pay a premium for repairability and ethics, but IMO it's worth it. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For many, but I already know how to fix my phones and have all the equipment to do it. Plus, re0airabilith is slowly starting to leech back into the market by means of being forced into it by the government.

Personally, I just want my damned microsd card slots back. I've been a samsung note fan for ages because I like the s pen. I'm currently using the last one made with a card slot. The n 20 ultra.

HTC just came back from the android grave and released a nice mid tier phone with a headphone jack and an SD card slot for just $600, but im not ready to give up my s-pen yet. My phone will still be plenty good for the next couple of years, and I'm hoping a company like HTC makes a successful comeback with card slots. I'm more willing to give up my s pen than give up my storage slot.

[–] Krzd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fp5 has a SD-Slot btw.

But yeah, I'm also hoping for more repairability in phones, however if you want to buy a new one in the next 2 years I seriously doubt that major manufacturers will have DIY repairable phones by then.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 67 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'll always be distrustful of Google hardware, but yes. I've been considering a Pixel as my next.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago (4 children)

When is the industry going to recognize that the camera needs to be flush with the back?

This is ridiculous

[–] bradbeattie@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If the camera really does need to be that thick for lens reasons, couldn't we at least make the rest of the body bigger with more battery?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but then it would be slightly heavier and have way too good of a battery life, reducing power bank sales and having the phone last longer without needing to be replaced due to battery degradation.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mine does that when I put a cover on my phone.

The cover is on the same level as the camera as there's a cutout on that bit.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Your cover increases battery life?

[–] aramova@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Attention span is a problem nowadays

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Literally nobody who cares about their phone is rawdogging it. It's a perfectly sane design assuming there will be a case.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish I didn't have to put a case on my phone

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Why? It's better to have the part most likely to suffer damage also be replaceable

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[–] fury@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Give it a few more years. At this rate, by 2028, the entire back of the phone will be camera bump and you'll be able to lay it down on a flat surface at last.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, fingerprint scanners don't belong behind the screen.

Unless you have the greasiest fingers of anyone who ever lived, they just don't work. I have to lick my fingers to make it see them...

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As my grandmother used to tell me, "Your hands are dry, go lotion them up sonny."

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And from that point on, Granny never did question why lil' Petey bought lube by the 55gal drum load.

At least his hands, amongst other things, were soft and well moisturized.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tech reviews are a corrupt mess and can seldom be trusted, especially reviews by "influencers".

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Also these days it's all about rushing content and pandering to the lowest common denominator. Though pop tech channels were always this way. I stumbled on Unbox Therapy lately and it's so blatant that it almost feels illegal.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Hey Google, this makes me not want a Pixel. I will however accept a large $um to cea$e $haring that $entiment.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't like that this is the way things are (in relation to influencers) but it seems reasonable to me that if you sign up to shill for a company, you should be expected to shill for the company.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

While this is true it should come with the caveat that it is basically reduced to... Advertising.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

$1k for a Tensor chip? Hell naw

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (24 children)

Wow those camera bumps look so ugly. They had a nice look in the previous generations

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

American Fair phone users, how's your experience?

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Content Creators.... Aren't all of those sucking Googles tits by spending their lives on YouTube anyway?

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