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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 118 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wait

"Our community has literally cooked 100s of millions of times with our app. Unfortunately, each connected cook costs us money."

The cooker, It's FUCKING Bluetooth. It doesn't need to call home, it can't call home. The App, It has a list of 35 different sous vide recipes that could live on the app. The app has no business calling home, they don't need a server.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They need if they were to push firmware updates via the app that are then installed over Bluetooth, like some headphones do. But that should be a free service, and also optional. I don't really see any groundbreaking functionality added for a device that's basically a submerged motor with a temperature probe.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

It's a decade old cooking appliance .

What possible firmware updates could it need at this point?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Firmware updates should not cost a subscription fee and could open them up to lawsuits.

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[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And if each did cost them money - they’ve been paid when the stupid thing was purchased!

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's a $200 heater. Probably $30 in parts. You can run a small cluster for the profit in a few sales a month.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's a cooker. Why the hell does it even need bluetooth, let alone an internet connection?

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

So it can notify you when the water has reached the set temperature or the time you set for cooking is up. Which can be handy. However, I found the BT very weak on my Anova and it would lose connection when I went into my home office a mere 25' away, so I stopped using it. There's actually no need for the water to be up to temperature before you put your food in, and food can sit as long as you want; half the point of sous vide is to be able to hold food at temp without overcooking. So you don't really need the timer either.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 44 points 11 months ago

Sounds like it's time for an open sauce alternative.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I passed on a lot of the fancier apartment buildings for requiring an app and a cell phone to gain access to your own home. I shouldn't have to agree to an arbitration/class action waiver to use my own front door, I don't feel comfortable with management getting a notification on their phone every time I come or go, I don't like the fact that 20+ listed partner companies have access to sensitive personal data, and I shouldn't have to wait for maintenance to show up in the middle of the night because I couldn't make it back home before my personal tracking device died on me.

The sad thing is that most of these locking units cost these apartments hundreds of dollars each on top of a monthly subscription.

[–] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the actual fuck. In what country do you live?

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

U.S.. Not an actual tracking device, just a cell phone. I usually leave it at home, which would have been impossible to do at many of those buildings.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

management getting a notification

Isn't that a giant privacy violation? Why does anyone need to know when you come or go?

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"...to maintain the safety and security of the building and everyone in it." - An actual FAQ

Way to make home feel like a prison.

[–] kevindqc@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

I haven't used the app in a while and opened it and saw this... Well never buying Anova again

But hey at least they gave me a coupon that expired two months ago.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Imagine seeing that message and buying another product from them.

“It’s time to artificially create waste. Don’t worry, you won’t see this message again. Our new cookers are designed to not last 10 years.”

[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

100%. They've just guaranteed that the sous vide unit that I have now is the last Anova product I will ever buy.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ung

(Don’t) hope they did their math right and the “well, it’s just $2/mo” crowd is large enough to offset the principled crowd

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That notice doesn't even say there is a $2/mo option. App just won't work at all.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

I can't imagine why these things even need an app.

You have to set the thing up with water and all, just hit the buttons on the device.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago

The one and only time I used the app it lost connectivity and left my chuck roast in lukewarm water for who knows how long. Tossed it because I didn't want to kill my family with food poisoning. It's nice if you have a WIFI connected device, so you can put something on the counter in an ice water bath in the morning with the sous vide wand in there and flip it on before you leave work in the afternoon. Also seeing that the water has maintained an appropriate temp during a long cook is nice too. It's a niche case use, but that's why it's nice to have it connected.

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[–] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actively encouraging people to toss perfectly good hardware to fuel their subscription bullshit… and these guys weren’t even recently bought by a VC firm or anything?

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Translation:

“Fuck you for not replacing your perfectly fine and still working 10 year old machine and making our line go up more. We’re gonna do our best to brick it because we want all of your money.”

Fuck capitalism. I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

[–] __init__@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

Same. It’s becoming more difficult every day.

[–] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

And that's so sad. There are a lot of (mainly Elderly people) who don't even have a smartphone who now often can't use the most basic stuff necessary because it needs an app.

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[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (8 children)

if I see something requires an app, no matter how good it is otherwise. the product is dead to me. I know it is, effectively, going to break within a year or two.

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[–] Iloveyurianime@ani.social 30 points 11 months ago

Were gonna need to pirate sous vides now

[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the absolute worst possible way for me to first hear about a product and company that I would have otherwise been interested in

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Same. I've been thinking of replacing the cheap immersion circulator we have, and was going to go with Anova. This blatant enshittification is enough to make me look elsewhere.

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[–] ArtemisimetrA@lemmy.duck.cafe 21 points 11 months ago

You wouldn't download a sous vide

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh ffs.. This is the one I have..

And, you know what? The firmware sucks.

You can't even connect to wifi if you have two AP's with the same name (which is literally everyone).

I haven't even installed the app in ages because it's a PITA and has never worked 100%.

But, they can guarantee my next one won't be an anova again. There are much cheaper alternatives now

[–] dorron@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I have never bought an appliance or physical product that requires an app to use, and I never will until our society has deteriorated to the the point where there is no alternative to that in order to get by in it. It's almost at that point already with smartphones but for now it's still possible to get by without one.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago

I will never throw a brick through the headquarters of Anova, nor would I advocate for others doing it.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have one of their's that can connect to your phone. It's not needed, it just adds extra cook book functions. It even hosts it so you can control the sous vide when you're not at home, almost like a reverse proxy.

But yea the physical buttons work fine without the app.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My car works fine without a seat warmer, but if you sold it to me as part of the car then later it started charging me a subscription I'd be pretty pissed.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I barely use the app, but this is a bullshit anti-consumer move that leaves me with zero reason to trust the company going forward.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

What I like about having the Bluetooth connection to the app, is mostly just to see when the water has come up to temperature.

But that was apparently too much to ask, since it says that they are also removing the Bluetooth functionality from the app...

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have two Anova cookers and have never needed the app fwiw

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

I honestly didn't know there was an app and use mine a few times a month.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Enshittification strikes again. 🤬

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago
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