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Pretty much the title. I've been watching more realistic super hero shows like The Boys and Invincible. The reoccurring themes is that with great power comes great immorality.

I think it's easy for us normies to respect other people and their property because there are clear consequences for violating social norms. But what would the average person do if they had super powers?

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[–] don@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time is a measurement of change, and is inextricably linked to space, so stopping time stops change of any kind. You wouldn’t be able to move even so little as a falling speck of dust from its (now) absolute position in space. You wouldn’t be able to move, and consequently even breathe, since your diaphragm has to change position for respiration to happen (nevermind the fact that matter can no longer be moved anyway, so air is now fixed in place.) Stopping time stops you, completely.

But since we’re talking about imaginary powers, if I could stop time, I wouldn’t even bother with anything in this multiverse, I’d just walk over to explore a different one a few trillion multiverses away. After all, I’d get there in no time.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but you're not taking this idea quite far enough. If all time stopped except for you, and you posit that everything else is rigidly fixed in place with no exceptions, you would instantly be turned into a fine mist as your body slams into the suddenly stationary earth or atmospheric molecules while your body is still traveling a couple million kilometers per hour relative to the rest of the universe.

[–] don@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No sorrow accepted, friend!

If your scenario posits that you are excepted from the effects of time throughout the universe halting, then what you posit would seem to be true, relative to that scenario. And it is interesting. In mine, the time stopper is part of the universe they’re in, and the instant they stop time, they too are frozen along with the rest of the 10^80 particles.

I’m just going all in for the scenario of “I’m gonna stop time and do all kinds of shit, or maybe just take a nap. Here… we… go—“

[ETERNALLY FROZEN UNIVERSE]

[–] cactus_head@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

There are multiple ways to approach this, but first some context

I identity as an agonistic atheist/ex-muslim and am gay men living in a muslim country. Right now my fear of consequence relates to being found out and killed/losing my job/ put in prison/ becoming homeless or becoming braindead /paralyzed/living with agonizing pain if i try to kill myself, plus the guilt of leaving my family with no money, so yeah. Historically for me, trying to make sense of human nature has been hell itself. There is my sister who identifies as a leftist communist progressive Muslim and then there is mom who calls Black people slaves and servants and think women shouldn't be allowed to drive(also has on multiple occasions has called my sister then 13 years old daughter "jokingly" a slut). Trying to put the whole of humanity, from all over the world, from all of time into one of two binary boxes is dumb. We do'nt to that to other spices, so why humans. We don't label all cats, all dogs or all birds as ultimately good or bad, they just are.

Ironically, this is the same argument alot of reglions/reglious people use to control thier followers, enternal damnation and all. In fact, i have personal experience with this way of thinking. Were i am from, we are tough that the west is all hedonist and only care about this plane of existence and we are morally superior and so on.

Another point of view is, the opposite can also be true, when i am in a bank and filling in a forum and someone needs a pen, i give them an extra pen i brought with me or when i finished my business and lingerie a bit if someone else needs a pen or when i get into the elevator and hold the door open for a little bit in case someone comes or when holding the door open for people or just saying thank you. Its little things but they make a difference in my day.

Also as some other commenters have said i just don't think about raping people, like if the only thing stopping me is consequence, then it make sense to think that is all i ever think of . Its not like i don't have impulsive thoughts like slapping someone while in a moving bus and have thought about killing my abusive father in the past more times then i can count. Those things are either very tame and uncommon thoughts or brought on under extreme circumstances and even then, i didn't act on them.

It should also be pointed out that such narratives benefit those in power. As zoe bee said in her video governments don't panic, people do. Also nulear Apocalypse was only avoided due to the dystopian threat of mutual destruction which was going to be caused in the first place by an error.

Lastly, saying that those are realistic heroes is cringe, you are a least 30 years late to the party.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, the question isn't clear.

Which time do you want to stop?

Since Einstein's papers from 1905, we know that every being lives in it's own time and also every place and every thing in the whole universe has it's own time. So, which time do you want to stop?

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl -3 points 1 year ago

The Boys

realistic

Ooooh boy do we tell them?

The tl;dr is: just because you suck, doesn't mean everyone else automagically does.

Here's the thing about the power to stop time: if it doesn't come accompanied by a lot of secondary-required powers (2RPs) , then it'd become so cumbersome and harmful in short order that your morals wouldn't have time (stopped or not) to flush down the toiler in the first place. Plusminus the "if you'd do it, you never had high morals in the first place" argument.

Simplest cases:

  • No 2RP power to start time. Ooopsie there goes your life as soon as your start your first experiment.
  • No ability to transfer movement / moventum to things, including air, in stopped time. You could stop time to think over a plan, but not to take prep steps for it. Forget about going to bed to take a nap: even if you could move, the bed, the carpeting and the pillow would explode into plasma as soon as time resumed.
  • If time is stopped, that means you are blind, right? Photons going around are stopped, and they can't interact with your body that way.
  • Breathing too, for that matter. Dragon Ball Z actually toyed with that idea with a character who could stop time but only while holding his breath.
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stalking your ex on a whole new level. You just continually pop into existence in front of them, driving them mad.

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