this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2024
651 points (100.0% liked)

196

16579 readers
1943 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 39 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I just looked it up to refresh my memory, but we think the ancient Scythians were also using estrogen derived from horse pee and also smoking mad weed, which is pretty neat.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Never heard about the estrogen claim, but I definitely knew about them smoking weed. They hotboxed in their tents, lmao

After the burial the Scythians cleanse themselves as follows: they anoint and wash their heads and, for their bodies, set up three poles leaning together to a point and cover these over with wool mats; then, in the space so enclosed to the best of their ability, they make a pit in the center beneath the poles and the mats and throw red-hot stones into it. . . . the Scythians then take the seed of this (kannabis) and, crawling into the tents, throw it on the red-hot stones, where it smoulders and sends forth such fumes that no Greek vapor-bath could surpass it. The Scythians howl in their joy at the vapor-bath."

[–] variants@possumpat.io 12 points 4 months ago

I just did something similar last week without the seed part but I can say that you howl from the burn of the heat haha

[–] shani66@ani.social 9 points 4 months ago

Truly a more civilized age

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To destroy, to create, to tear out, to establish are yours, Inanna.

To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna

-Hymn to Inanna by Enheduanna, daughter of Sargon of Akkad, 23rd century BCE

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Is this the daughter who got her father so drunk he gave her all the things that make up Civilization and fled to start her own city?

[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The irony of her being the original Sargon of Akkad's daughter is kinda funny to me.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dayum trans ppl must rlly start worshipping Inanna now. Like she gets impressed by ur devotion, snaps her fingers n pop- u r now ur preferred gender! This, versus years of expensive HRT, surgeries (in case of some ppl) n all that.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would it be ethical to ask her to gender swap cis transphobes? Because I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be tempted.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago

That sounds more like a thing to ask Eris to do.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I once ran up against a guy who claimed trans people had their minds rotten by the porn industry. Motherfucker, there are really well documented non-cishet-normative social classes in Norse Scandinavia, in pre-Modern Albania, in pre-Muslim Arabia, in several places of Indonesia - what porn industry did exist there!? He couldn't come up with anything, but wouldn't budge either. Some people get stuck in a prejudice and will behave like raving conspiracy theorists the moment they're offered some bullshit explanation that makes no sense but agrees with them.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

bigots' "reasons" to be bigots aren't really reasons, they're smoke screens. Against my better judgment I argued with many in the past, with one particular person I managed to take the conversation to a logical conclusion, after hours of disassembling their baseless arguments there was just one left - "i don't like them they disgust me". Facts over feelings my ass. I believe this is at the core of all bigoted ideas - fear that then transforms into resentment and disgust, that then gets dressed up in all manner of reasons and arguments so they can feel justified in feeling that way

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

a guy who claimed trans people had their minds rotten by the porn industry.

Holy shit that projection, and how they can't disentangle their kinks from human beings with human experience.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Other people claim trans people were invented by John Money, except he's only being pushed by bigots due to his name could invoke some antisemitic tropes in people's heads.

[–] BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wikipedia has a surprisingly thorough page on transgender history, organized into sections by country. tldr; historically and globally humans have always been queer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

tysm for posting this <3

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But why is the picture covered?

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you can read the text??

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

no read ಠ_ಠ

only trans god junk ಠ_ಠ

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Here you go.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wish there was a way to make it so the text and the picture would not be covered

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

Nono, the radical left invented transism just a couple of years ago, what are you talking about smh

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Inanna is awesome, there's some other lgbtqia aspects to her worship

From The wiki;

Individuals who went against the gender binary were heavily involved in the cult of Inanna. During Sumerian times, a set of priests known as gala worked in Inanna's temples, where they performed elegies and lamentations. Men who became gala sometimes adopted female names, and their songs were composed in the Sumerian eme-sal dialect, which, in literary texts, is normally reserved for the speech of female characters. Some Sumerian proverbs seem to suggest that gala had a reputation for engaging in anal sex with men. During the Akkadian Period, kurgarrū and assinnu were servants of Ishtar who dressed in female clothing and performed war dances in Ishtar's temples. Several Akkadian proverbs seem to suggest that they may have also had homosexual proclivities. Gwendolyn Leick, an anthropologist known for her writings on Mesopotamia, has compared these individuals to the contemporary Indian hijra. In one Akkadian hymn, Ishtar is described as transforming men into women.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Watch "little big man" from 1970 and it has a trans character.

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hate when people don't realize love is powerful enough to make people question everything, including themselves.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to be driven by relationships to be trans

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Agreed! I apologize, I didn't mean "love" in the interpersonal relationship sense. I meant it more in The Beatles "All You Need is Love" sense.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not as old as civilisations.

As old as gender structures, which is way older.

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Do you have the sauce on that? Because I've heard of Mesopotamia but not older yet

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Obviously trans has almost always existed but isn't the idea of queer more if a societal thing that likely didn't exist in that exact form in the past? Either way never heard of them cool post

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Proving that furries are also as old as civilization.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 1 points 4 months ago
[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

She could cure cancer instead.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into ~~dinosaurs~~ a different gender

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 13 points 4 months ago

Inanna: I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn boys into girls

[–] mjsaber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

One of her symbols is an 8-pointed star. I like to wear one as a necklace as a low key way to display my pride and still be safe.