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As you may know, ChatGPT collects a lot of data on the users for the improvement of their AI, but this poses risks in its own way. I was wondering whether there are privacy alternatives to ChatGPT. Perhaps on F-Droid or Aurora/PlayStore, or for Linux.

Are there any alternatives you know of? Or are there other ways to interact with ChatGPT without giving personal information, such as a privacy focussed front-end?

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[–] projectmoon@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

!localllama@sh.itjust.works

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !localllama@sh.itjust.works

[–] NoTimeLeft@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you able to run LLMs on your own computer?

If so:

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, I use: https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui and currently am using this model: mistralai/Mistral-7B-Instruct-v0.2.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Be aware OP that local LLMs are quite a bit worse than what's available online. Llama 3 is (probably?) the best one available now and even that has a habit of being very stupid sometimes compared to claude or chatgpt.

[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Phi3 is surprisingly good for its size and speed too

[–] NoTimeLeft@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Alright. Will keep that in mind, thanks!

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I use https://huggingface.co/chat/, which is an open source alternative to ChatGPT.

Their privacy policy is here.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago
[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of these is programming oriented but they let you choose the model so I guess it is fine:

OpenAI API alternative:

[–] NoTimeLeft@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good to have, I'm a bit of a programmer myself :)

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are private GPT solutions coming, f.e. https://www.fujitsu.com/global/products/data-transformation/data-driven/ai-test-drive/
They are aimed at companies that for compliance reasons want to self host.

I wouldn't trust an llm solution with sensitive information unless I host it myself.

[–] NoTimeLeft@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you happen to know how this self-hosting would work? Can I run it at my desktop/phone or even a raspberry pi? How is the quality of generated results compared to ChatGPT?

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can run 7B models on my laptop with its embedded GPU. Running on a phone or a Pi is possible with smaller models, but very slow. Expect good speed with a desktop Nvidea GPU. Later this year, there should be new computers with an NPU integrated to the CPU which should speed up computers that don't have a dedicated GPU. (But a GPU will still outperform them by a lot.)

70B models will run very slowly on even the best consumer hardware due to memory limitations.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Typically llm are rather ressource intensive - you need beefy hardware to run those at speed. Especially if you intend to train them with your data to improve their relevance. I don’t think mobile phones or run to the mill laptops are going to be enough for any non-trivial implementations. I might be skewed by experiences on non-personal projects though.

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best option is to run them models locally. You'll need a good enough GPU - I have an RTX 3060 with 12 GB of VRAM, which is enough to do a lot of local AI work.

I use Ollama, and my favourite model to use with it is Mistral-7b-Instruct. It's a 7 billion parameter model optimised for instruction following, but usable with 4 bit quantisation, so the model takes about 4 GB of storage.

You can run it from the command line rather than a web interface - run the container for the server, and then something like docker exec -it ollama ollama run mistral, giving a command line interface. The model performs pretty well; not quite as well on some tasks as GPT-4, but also not brain-damaged from attempts to censor it.

By default it keeps a local history, but you can turn that off.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that 12GB RAM just for the model or total?

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the GPU has 12GB of physical ram.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using GPT4All and quite liking it so far.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm taking a chance, but which model would you use for learning new programming language?

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, not sure exactly. I've been using Llama3 because it seems to give decent results for most things quickly, but I haven't really done much coding with it outside of some simple bash scripts TBH.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I am looking for a basic coding AI. I don't want to create a complex software, just something to get me started by example. So bash script level is good enough for me.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your future coworkers will thank you if you do not use an AI for that at all

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'm talking about really basic stuff. AI is great as an entry point to a new language.

For example, in python, finding out the current folder in which the script is running or in preact, how to use simple hooks.

It's fast, and once I know the name of the functions used, I can look up the documentation I need to and find appropriate tutorials and examples.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I use venice.ai because it's browser based and does not require an account. It is somewhat limited, but it works for my extremely limited purposes.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone know if there is a way to feed a local AI some of the one notes from my job so I can search like a lazy bastard?

Yeah. You can use ollama, and openwebui. Openwebui allows you to RAG (search your own files) with little effort

[–] tufek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I use Andi, which is enough for my needs, and for sure is the most private and trustworth AI out there (maybe locally hosted apart). It was the first AI chat/search ever, long before the others from Google, Bing and Fakebook. Former LazyWeb.