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A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.

An Internet meme or meme, is a cultural item that is spread via the Internet, often through social media platforms. The name is by the concept of memes proposed by Richard Dawkins in 1972. Internet memes can take various forms, such as images, videos, GIFs, and various other viral sensations.


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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 119 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (34 children)

Tl;Dr: a meme went around asking women if they'd rather be stuck on an isolated island with a strange man or a strange bear. Most women chose the bear, largely due to the bear being more predictable and easier to deal with than a man inclined to do them harm, which, based on the experience of most women, is a whole lot of men.

Fragile men took this as an attack on all men everywhere and were offended at being "called a predator".

There's a pretty good thread in my comment history where I try to address the issue with one such fellow male and their response is about what you'd expect, confirming all the reasons why women chose the strange bear over the strange man

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (39 children)

Edit/preface: none of this is intended to diminish the very real and valid sense of fear that women may feel towards unknown/untrusted men. I am in no way trying to gatekeep other people’s emotions, nor saying women should “toughen up” or whatever. If my comment was construed as such, I apologize.

It’s a bit of a silly premise, because I’m willing to bet the VAST majority of answerers have never been in close proximity to an actual, honest to god, “hmmm that meatbag looks tasty imma eat its face” bear.

I have. It’ll bring you a clarity of mind and a knowledge of complete vulnerability that you can’t really find outside of other imminently life-threatening situations.

Sure, random dude could be a psycho. But if there’s not much (or any) food on the island, the bear is definitely going to eat you at some point, and there’s nothing you can do about that.

All that said, as a dude myself, I wish there were less shitty men out there. Why can’t we all just fucking respect other humans?

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why can’t we all just fucking respect other humans?

Exhibit A: The internet.

Exhibit B: Social Media.

I rest my case your honour. No further questions. I object.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're objecting to your own argument!

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Jury's not expecting that, are they?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

It reminded me of Liar Liar.

Prosecutor: "He's badgering the witness!"

Josh: "It's his witness..."

[–] makeawishkid@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the question here is, if the bear attacked - would people believe the woman that she was attacked? Would they blame her for what she was wearing?

she wasn’t wearing bear armor, and thus obviously wanted to be mauled

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Well... When a bear ate Grizzly Man and his girlfriend, a bunch of people blamed it on her menstrual cycle, so I think the chances are high that people would blame her for one thing or another. Perhaps they'd blame her for choosing to be alone on an island with a fuckin bear.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’ll bring you a clarity of mind and a knowledge of complete vulnerability that you can’t really find outside of other imminently life-threatening situations.

Thanks to that experience now you know how women feel very often, sometimes multiple times in the same day. It's something they learn to live with their whole lives.

It's not hyperbole. They're not making light of the danger. When women say "I'd rather meet a bear" they really mean it. It's the same feeling, but it would happen extremely rarely instead of daily.

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[–] Mok98@feddit.it 23 points 6 months ago (4 children)

While I don't want to diminish the problems of the interactions between men and women in our society, I think there's a point that's not been discussed here yet: what does STRANGE bear entail? Is it sick? Is it like an eldritch horror bear? Does it just behave weirdly sometimes? Does it just wear a hat?

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[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I find this concerning.

That gender disputes reached such an explosive level, that women say they'd rather a bear join them than a man and that man get super upset over this. There's a little truth in everything. Imagine trying your hardest as a man and still being told ppl prefer a wild animal over you. Imagine knowing as a woman you can't trust men to the point where you'd prefer a wild and dangerous animal keep you company. And also imagine hating another gender with such a deep passion that a meme becomes a toxic war of insult and discrediting.

I don't like this timeline, I want a do-over.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I think you hit on something that is a pretty big part of the problem: Men taking it personally. As far as I know, no specific man is mentioned, but a lot seem to insert themselves into the situation.

I try to do my best in life to be a good person, to be a good man, but I completely get why a woman would be worried about being in the middle of nowhere with a strange man, even if that man was me, because they don't know what that person is capable of.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Oh so if someone says 'black people are dangerous thugs, I'd rather encounter a bear than a removed', it's all good, a black person shouldn't take it personally? After all, no specific black person is mentioned. Come on, just be a good ally, stfu and nod.

I am willing to bet many, many people wouldn't be ok with that, and rightfully so. I know I would not.

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Like, I understand why some people might answer that way. And as a dude, it makes me sad that it’s such an apparently omnipresent societal problem these days.

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[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'd rather a strange bear than a strange women.

TitleNow watch as this gets down voted and I get called sexist...

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[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Holy shit you laid the bait brilliantly cause look at all the dipshits in this comment section. Fuckin dumpster fire.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was perfectly crafted ragebait. Your feedback will be used to improve future psyops.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People who don't understand why she would pick the bear don't deserve bears.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a dude i prefer a bear.. if I can't choose my wife

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[–] lath@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Many men would prefer to be a momma bear's cub. That sort of protection and care is one of the most valuable treasures out there.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

have we finally full circled to the gay men aspect of bears?

Or are we still waiting on that?

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[–] KroninJ@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a job that I go to residential homes to fix computers. 100% would rather be there alone with a 1%er than a women.

My personal experience tells me that it's safer whether statistically it is or not.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Got falsely accused of sexual assault a while back after my patient didn't like her workers compensation case outcome. Ruined how I felt my job and I quit the following year. Every female patient felt like a minefield after that.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope the accusations didn't lead to anything. Sad that people on here seemingly disregard personal experience, despite no generalizations being made, and you only sharing you feelings.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh it got shut down fast. Nothing happened, just soured the gig for me thats all.

Yeah I can see why people wouldn't be thrilled for me to mention it in a thread like this. This thread is about women. And bears 🐻

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's good to hear.

Yeah but still, it's not like you turned into an incel because of it. I think your response to that situation is totally understandable, and so is wanting to share it.

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