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Exciting news for who? Only the site owner is excited that a free resource now requires a subscription
"Yay! Now I have to pay another subscription! I'm so excited! Let's celebrate with them!" - nobody
I have no skin in this game but I think it sounds like they need to change their name from "open subtitles" to "closed captioning"
Edit: stupid STT
Eyyyyyy got em
Gather all the worlds subtitles under the guise of being “open” and then bait and switch when you’re the largest subtitles database out there.
The free API had a limit of 20 subs/day, you’re not going to tell me those server costs were significant.
The new API has the exact same free limit. They're just dropping support for the old API soon and people who want to depend on the old version will need to pay for its continued support because they want to push everyone onto the new site/API
then they utterly failed to communicate that lol
Yea OP should update the post. OS did a horrible job communicating but its not as dire as the title projects.
I think it goes from 20 to 5. 10 if you're not anonymous. To get more you need to have contributed to the site, monetarily or other wise.
Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user.
I think it's reasonable move. They have Legacy API that cost them a lot of manhours to maitain and they decided to cut on costs and replace it with a new thing. Sadly they decresed amount of api calls from 20 to 5 [needs citation]
I think they don't have good PR guy to better communicate the change
Subtitles are like 5kb text files, why even limit their downloads in any way?
The overhead isn't the storage but the request. Processing a request takes CPU time, which can get expensive when people setup a media server and request subtitles for dozens of movies and shows. Every episode of a TV show is a separate request and that can add up fast when you scale it to thousands of users.
Money money money moooonnneey
(Mah-nee!)
If they're storing them in something like Amazon s3, there is a cost (extremely low, but not free) associated with retrieving data regardless of size.
Even if they were an entirely free service, it'd make sense to put hard rate limits on unauthenticated users and more generous rate limits on authenticated ones.
Leaving out rate limits is a good way to discover that you have users who will use your API real dumb.
Their pricing model seems fucked, but that's aside from the rate limits.
Electricity aint exactly free. Even if the data they store is minuscule. Servers will pull >300w if you store 10gb or 2000gb.
Why is it called "OpenSubtitles" if you have to pay for it to use it in any capacity?
So what pisses me off in these cases is this: they didn't contribute with the data. They're a convenient aggregator, I give them that, but the data came from third parties. If you want to start charging for convenient access to the data you should at least make all data before you started charging available in a bulk download for free.
Don't call yourself open ffs
openAI anyone?
You just need to move to the new API, which is free, the old one is still available temporarily if you pay
contribute to a greater cause
For the greater good, that is their pockets.
I am your wife! I am the greatest good you are ever gonna get!
Lol gotta pay for "adfree subtitles"
"Luke, I am [over the moon for these Sobeys™️ rebates!]"
well it has been deprecated for a few years, and they're basically asking you to play for continued support.
they have a new REST api, but you still need the old one, pay up because otherwise there's no motivation to keep it around.
Oh, are chocolate rations up to 60 grams now?
No, they're up to 20 grams now! Isn't that great!?
HOLY SHIT! 12 whole dollars a YEAR to keep using the deprecated API they don't want to support anymore. What monsters.
Will the new API be free?
Yes, for up to 20 calls per day.
Why is the title so misleading then?
Let's be clear in one thing:
That's it. Everything in the Universe, including you, has a "price" on energy. Now outside of all crony-capitalism craziness, we should all consider having a open, distributed, fair price Internet and it's resources.
I'm calling Louis.
Plenty of places provide free lunches. They're still paid for, but they're free at the point of service. Eg homeless shelters, Wikipedia.
I can't believe that all this time I could have been getting my lunch for free at wikipedia.org
Jimmy Wales serves it himself, with a side of the softcore porn he first made his fortune on.
That's an unorthodox side dish to say the least, but I suppose beggars can't be choosers.
Sikh gurdwaras will also serve free food
Anger is a form of excitement.