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[–] boem@lemmy.world 126 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile YouTube tries to copy TikTok by pushing Shorts.

[–] Pechente@feddit.de 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Reminds me of how stories are everywhere now or how everyone copied clubhouse for a while. Instead of strengthening what a product is good at, these companies want their products to he everything at once and often lose focus about what their product was originally good at.

Telegram for example becomes a fully blown social network now but message sync and notifications between different clients are spotty now - that’s what made them great for me in the beginning.

[–] sab@kbin.social 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Also Telegram is growing shadier day by day. Signal is the way to go.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Hasn't Telegram always been a Russian asset?

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Matrix is the way to go

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

Threema is the way to go🇨🇭

[–] hushable@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

message editing is an odd one, several times I've edited a message and not seen the change reflected on my other devices for hours at the time. Makes me wonder if my recipient get the updated message with a massive delay as well.

[–] laxe@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

They do this because they need to create “infinite” growth to justify their overvalued stock price

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Google would never have too many products and lose focus.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm so glad that Enhancer for YT got updated again. No more Shorts spam for me.

[–] 100@fedia.io 9 points 6 months ago

yeah fuck that shit, hidden

[–] teft@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Maybe i should start a medium form video hosting site…

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No less than 10 minutes, but no more than 45 minutes.

That actually might be amazing.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

22 minute videos…we’ve just reinvented broadcast television.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

And we'll put a series of ads to round it up to 1 hour, brilliant!

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If YouTube was too long and TikTok was too short, yours could be just right.

You could call it Goldilokk

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago
[–] teft@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's marketing gold right there.

Remember OLD Youtube? With a 10 minute upload limit? Which is why the original Red Letter Media Mr. Plinkett review of The Phantom Menace, the work that basically invented the modern long-form video essay, was broken into 9 parts?

[–] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Shorts are so abominably bad, I feel like I fell through a portal into another dimension when i watch the absolute garbage there.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 99 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As if their user base has that kind of attention span /s.

[–] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention that it's hard to intuitively watch longterm videos on TikTok. Once you swipe a video, it's gone, unless you save it on favorites, and it's not easy to get back to the video, either. At least on YouTube, it's easier to go back to the paused video from the homepage.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Another thing about TikTok that I don't get is all the useless crap laid over the video. Seems extremely distracting to me.

[–] Squiddly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a frequent tiktok user as of late, swiping away a video doesn't make it go away forever. You can always go back, also there's a view history if you're really trying to find a video you lost. People shit on tiktok a lot but it's made my cooking phenomenal.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 43 points 6 months ago

he was closing the <span>

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

No /s needed

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Not happening

[–] small44@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People can't even register and comment. All instances i tried do not accept registrarion requests

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

Tilvids was easy and worked for me.

But yeah Peertube still needs some ease of use features.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 months ago

YouTube wants to be Ticktok so we have a circle

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Finally, a competitive YouTube alternative

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

You forgot this: /s

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

upload every episode of air crash investigations!

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

"I'd like to take this 5 minute break and thank all my sponsors before we get into the video!"

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm a TikTok user (sorry) and love the longer educational videos, but over 10 minutes which is the current limit seems excessive in this format. I wanna be able to pause and continue these later which doesn't fit into how TikTok works.

IMO these should be separated into different apps, when I use YouTube I also don't wanna be made to watch their shorts. I wouldn't mind a YT alternative by TikTok – don't get me wrong they're also a horrible company but it wouldn't harm to have competition by one of the few who could pull it off.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the point? Most people I see on Tiktok have so little attention span that everything gets skipped after the first 5 seconds.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

They make it to five seconds?

My wife maybe watches the first 700 milliseconds before deciding if she’s going to watch a video.

TikTok has melted her already short attention span. We’re working on cutting down on it, but she’s truly addicted to social media in general.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All these websites are taking features from other ones nowadays.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This has been happening since AOL.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 6 months ago

AOL itself is a ripoff of CompuServe. Which they then also bought.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

Not the YT alternative we wanted, but the one we deserve... :(

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Well, I'd definitely call that an improvement for those psychos who watch movies there in incontable chunks... (Yeah, this species exists).

[–] sirico@feddit.uk -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

YT needs something like this tbf

[–] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago

Long form competition they've become far too complacent and not rewarding or pushing long form creators.