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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

too bad the water source isnt visible so we could label it 'united states funding'

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You need a plain water tap with no one pressing the button. And the cup below labeled Gaza.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well you can be both a perpetrator and a victim

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Was about to say. It should be 'Committing war crimes' and 'Also a victim' lol.

Having 1,200 of your countrymen slaughtered through terrorist violence makes you a victim. It doesn't give carte blanche to annihilate everything in your path for vengeance though.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You stop qualifying for sympathy when you as the victim decide to escalate in the name of revenge

[–] snoopfrog@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

I'm admittedly not well-versed in international affairs, but hasn't Israel been waiting for an opportunity to do exactly what they're doing for decades? We've armed them to the tooth, and that has always been at least a little concerning because we understood this to be their disposition. I fully expected some light genocide after hearing about the Hamas attack. It's looking like they might exceed expectations too. I'm a little shocked at our indifference.

[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (46 children)

Yeah, that could be Hamas too.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same with hamas but red is pretending to represent palestine

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Indeed.

But I have no hope of influencing Hamas.

My vote and political activism has some small chance of affecting Israeli policy so that's what I'm more engaged in.

I saw somebody on TV saying "what people don't understand is that Hamas wants civilian deaths". Oh I get it, I get it just fine. It doesn't change the fact that Netanyahu etc are giving them exactly exactly what they want.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas doesn't even claim to represent all of Palestine. They represent the Gaza strip which they governed legitimately after a free and fair election. They would indeed probably win in the west bank too if the collaboration government there held elections, but the Axis of Resistance is a broad coalition of groups opposing the illegal "Israeli" occupation of their land and ethnic cleansing of their people, and includes all sorts of colorful groups like the Marxist PFLP and general-nationalist Lion's Den, as well as foreign groups like Hezbollah.

It's just that braindead western propaganda only talks about Hamas because they're the scariest to white people. They're "like ISIS" as the vile Zionist pundits are quick to remind you every time they come up in the news (simply a ridiculous, childish comparison). Calling it the "Hamas-Israel war" is intentional to obscure the fact that it is the Zionist entity that is waging a war against the entire population of Palestine, and has been doing so for decades.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Hamas was elected seventeen years ago.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Jaderick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It’s the slightly less motivated “committing”

[–] Onfire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can say the same thing about Hamas and their supporters. We should keep out of this mess. There's no solution and it won't end well. Don't get involved.

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think allowing a nation to commit genocide just because we don't want to get involved sets a dangerous precedent

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's frustrating to me as a person who's generally against violence is that Israel has a pretty elite secret police force and pretty elite special forces that they (apparently) haven't used at all to deal with the actual perpetrators of the October 7th massacre & kidnapping.

They just started bombing thousands of civilians to kill dozens, maybe hundreds of Hamas militants.

Like, surely they could have cut the head off the Hamas Snake with surgical strike teams infiltrating Gaza, probably the West Bank, and international locations in Qatar or wherever the leadership is.

Reasonable people could conclude that Israel had to respond to Oct 7th, and that the best target would be Hamas. I can't fathom how any reasonable people could conclude that bombing groups of people with 90% or more innocent civilians and the rest possible militants is a good response.

I can imagine that UNreasonable people might conclude that all Palestinians are guilty by association (because Hamas is their Netanyahu-supported elected government) and they're all militants (even the babies). Or those unreasonable people might believe that Palestinians aren't people worthy of protection.

So goddamned frustrating.

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel could simply have not starved the people living in the Gaza strip to death over the course of decades while occasionally flicking airstrikes at them, which they were doing long before October.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I often wonder how people can forget this considering Isreal has been commiting genocide, ethnic cleansing, hate crimes since it's inception like wtf ?

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's actually surprising that Hamas didn't get more votes in the election, when the other option was getting ruled by Fatah. Who would want the enemy's puppet governing them?

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's the point of voting when you could have your entire family obliterated at any instant ? Women in palestine have said that their only wish when their children dies in a strike is to find their bodies intact and not pieces by pieces. Just remembering these words is making me sick and They're living it. Fuck Isreal and anyone that defend it.

[–] Heir_Of_Isildur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

There was an IDF representative who said that they were not going for accuracy. Which means that they are intentionally killing civilians.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Actually, weren't they severely embarrassed by those recent attacks, having been totally caught off guard? Maybe we're overestimating just how good their forces really are.

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[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The cup looked rather big to me, but I didn't know how big 44oz was. Guys, it's 1.3 liters! Why tf are they carrying a 1.3 liter cup? Do they really drink that much in one day?

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the hitler-detector is going off the scales rn at some of the comments in this thread

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thankfully our great mods have already banned most of the bloodthirsty zionists on our end so we dont have to see their shit unless i choose to peek over into the instance this was posted from to see the full comments section

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is very funny.

Having said that, i rather not be involved in that conflict.

Those guys seem to have beef going on from babylonian times where everybody themsleves where diferent people afaik.

Seems to me like the holy land itself is cursed and its neighboors too.

So yeah i rather just lol at this meme.

[–] rurutheguru@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 1000+ Palestinian kids being killed daily by Israeli forces are victims of this "beef" stretching back thousands of years, which is messed up and unfair (stating it mildly). I think that's what most people are pointing out, that and Israel bombing hospitals.

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[–] Gracchibro1@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

It’s only been going on since the 1940s when European settlers colonized the area. Do you really think this genocide has something to do with Babylonian times?

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think I'll choose Sprite instead.

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