"His life has taken an irreparable downward spiral. He is no longer the man he once was," Watson wrote.
That is not a valid reason to allow a rapist to escape jail time.
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But what if he's super duper sorry??? /s
Fuck this "his downfall was his punishment," shit.
That's what we get when we have a punishment system, rather than a justice system. This guy has had his feel bad, so everyone's square!
Public safety? No thank you! We're here to trade mildly reduced visual clarity for an eye!
But the judge said he wouldn't face jail time before hearing both sides. That's pretty normal. /s
Sexual assault, yes. Rape, no.
He removed her shirt and bra and kissed her without consent. No intercourse (including the standard variants thereof) occurred. She protested, and he drove her home.
That's basic sexual assault based on the legal definitions (there are two higher definitions for using weapons or causing bodily harm) and there is no legal minimum for basic sexual assault (of an adult)
The pig should be in jail, and you shouldn't be making excuses for him.
I'm not making excuses, I'm being specific and correct. Rape (which isn't defined in the Canadian criminal code) has a very clear definition understood by the public (and defined in law elsewhere) as requiring penetration of some sort.
You're actually defaming him (and therefore guilty of libel under Canadian Criminal law) for accusing him of something which is not true and could harm his reputation further.
In your opinion, how many years of jail should be given to someone who kisses another person without their consent? Or does that part of this situation not warrant jail time? Should there be a mandatory minimum for any form of sexual assault? How many years then for the more serious offence of removing someone's shirt and bra without their consent?
who kisses another person without their consent
You are seriously are doubling down on defending people who sexually assault people. No consent is assault and that can get you jail time.
The pig was in a position of power and is supposed to be better than the average person.
I'm not defaming him, as it's my opinion that he is a pig and deserves jail time for his actions.
Edit: either a lot of people don't know what defamation is, or they are hand waving sexual assault.
iT's OnLy RaPe If He GoT hIs DiCk WeT
Dear god. Listen to yourself.
Like, straight up, if you're playing apologetics for a fucking cop who sexually assaulted someone by trying to well-akshually rape, you need to deeply probe your motivations there. Because I promise you, you don't have good ones.
ITs OnLy MuRdEr If He DiEs
It's oNlY SuIcIdE If a cOp sHoOtS YoU
Y'all remember when "suicide by cop" was a popular term? But never "murder by coward," huh...
OK then, attempted rapist
He attempted to have an affair. The fact that he stopped when she protested and drove her home instead indicates he didn't attempt or intend to rape her. He still absolutely committed sexual assault though which is why he was found guilty. Consent for any sort of sexual encounter needs to come first, not during or after, and removing someone's shirt and bra definitely requires consent.
When dealing with situations like this, it's important to be very clear and precise. There's unfortunately a lot of actual rapes that occur, and they shouldn't be muddied by situations where someone calls rape when it isn't leading to people downplaying real rapes.
It's the same reason I don't like seeing people put on the sex offender list for public urination just because it happened near a school (even if there were no youth there at the time) or like the case of a man that got put on the list just a couple years ago for writing a short sexual story (completely fictional) simply because it contained teenagers who weren't 18 yet.
Later that month, LaCombe "contrived another opportunity to meet" and picked the victim up in his own car, without initially telling her where they were going, and brought her to a hotel, Paquette said.
He kidnapped her and took her to a hotel room.
In the room, he handed her a dress he bought from Value Village, and she went into the washroom but didn't change into it, the defence said. When she emerged, LaCombe picked her up without her consent, pulled her on top of him, took off her top and bra and kissed her.
Then he wants her to dress up for him AGAINST HER WILL.
What you do is dangerous and can be harmfull for victims. With blowing up the severity of cases like this, you reduce the the severity of kidnapping and rape cases in the minds of people reading your claims.
She wasn't beaten up and dragged into his car, that's what i imagine when i think of kidnapping and it should stay that way.
Taking someone to a place under false pretenses. Then telling her to change into clothes that she didn't want to wear. Then sexually assaulting her.
That definitely sounds like kidnapping and attempted rape to me. Just because she was let go doesn't mean that it wasn't a crime.
He used his authority and position in the community to sexually exploit someone who was vulnerable and IN HIS FUCKING CARE BECAUSE THEY WERE A VULNERABLE PERSON. You're being such an asshole right now, how can you not understand that.
When there is a power dynamic, what might in another context be a simple conflict between two equal people completely changes in nature.
Exactly, I've had my dick grabbed/felt up, and had people try to strip me. It's assault, not rape.
Both are bad and should be punished, but one is way worse. By calling all sexual assaults rape, it almost feels like it's eroding the word "rape" to something lesser.
This predator needs to be punished.
That's exploiting a power dynamic to force themself sexually on an unwilling person. That's rape. Laws don't define words, it does not matter what the definition of the crime of the same name is, that woman was raped.
American here: your cops are above the law, too? π
Seems to be a universal theme.
This manβs rape conviction has ruined his life, that is punishment enough. -A lot of judges apparently
Cut to this man being hired at another department while he under house arrest. He gets work release and bam, rapist cop back out on the street, even while on probation.
He will rape again.
We want the same penalties for everyone who commits a crime. It should never matter what the criminals job is nor how much money they make. The same penalties should apply to EVERYONE!!!!
In most cases yes. However in the cases of fines poor people are more penalized than wealthy, so there should be some proportional consideration there.
Just use a percentage. X% of net worth would be interesting.
Unfortunately this is consistent with other sexual assault sentences here. From what I've seen anyway. Purely anecdotal. Raped and ruined your own children and complicated their lives for all time? 8 months for you. And out for good behaviour in 4. Justice served /s
"... He is no longer the man he once was."
Pretty sure that's not true. I can't imagine any ethical, sane person waking up one morning and thinking to themselves "you know, I think I will try a little raping today!"
He is different in the way that he used to be a rapist, now he's a rapist that's been caught but didn't get legal any consequences.
Hope ge gets social ones at least, everyone around him knowing what he is.
Aww the poor rapist /s
Not too much of a shock.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Watson sentenced LaCombe on Monday at the Ontario Court of Justice in St. Catharines, Ont., describingΒ his crimes and the aftermath as "a spectacular and cataclysmic fall from grace" in his written decision.
"I understand and have no doubt this has destroyed his life and he's suffering a form of exquisite agony and to keep the sword hanging over his head β not knowing what's going to happen β in my opinion, as a fellow human being, is unnecessary," Watson said.
She feels isolated at work as a police officer, suffers from panic attacks and has developed a "strong fear and distrust of men," Watson wrote.
After Watson found him guilty, LaCombe resigned from the police service β before a disciplinary hearing was held β and he wasΒ dischargedΒ from the military, of which he'd been a member for decades.
Watson determined LaCombe didn't deserve incarceration for his crimes because he's led a life of "exemplary service," has no prior criminal record and is remorseful, according to his written decision.
"This offence involved his ham-fisted attempt to engage in an extra marital affair with a friend, albeit with an extremely serious impact on [the victim]," Watson wrote.
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