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esp if you're one of the devout ones who think they've been really good

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Religion has crafted their rules to make sure they maintain control. They can’t control dead people.

[–] Raglesnarf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"If I knew there was an after life I'd kill myself right now"

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mean, I'm not religious but I'm excited to die ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

(This is a half serious joke. I have a long history of suicidal feelings and whilst I generally do want to live and am not in any acute risk, I wont lie — many days are a struggle. )

Edit: escaped a backslash so my shrug could have both arms.

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[–] inspired@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't athletes expecting to medal just want to skip the competition and go straight to the podium? I mean, that's the reward, right? It is pretty easy to come up with many other analogs where there is a reward/goal that would feel hollow without whatever experience precedes it.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

For me outside of the natural scariness of it if your not into reincarnation then this is yout only chance on earth and hevon may be good but I'm not done yet getting my own personal kind of high score

Correct. That's how you know it isn't a genuine belief, rather than coping.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm not worried about dying. I believe if I'm here on earth I'm here for a reason and so I'm content to be here until such time as I'm not needed anymore. I enjoy being with my family and having a cup of tea with my wife, as someone here has already mentioned.

I know there are a lot of distinctions in religion but I don't believe being "really good" is an option for humans. I believe being saved from our innate brokenness is the only way anyone could possibly go to heaven. I'm not particularly attracted to religious things or practices.

So yes, I'm excited to go be with God, but I'm not about to take matters into my own hands. It would fly in the face of humbling yourself before the Almighty.

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[–] Ferris@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

I thought this was how you summarize current inaction against climate change.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I remember in Christian fundamentalist circles after 9/11 remarking they might not be ready to die for their faiths like terrorists are. Not the best introspection to be doing, I don't think.

Obviously, even among the truly devout, humans have innate urges to stay alive. Fear of death is often one of the last steps in any faith. After life and fear of death is also one of the bigger preoccupations with many faiths. It's the big unknown.

Everyone has to die and no one is ever truly ready.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes? Religion is anti-life. I remember being excited about the idea of meeting Jesus one day.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

You know not all of us believe in an afterlife, right?

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I agree with you.
Either the person isn't a 'good follower' and isn't going to the good place.
Or they don't actually believe. Because there should be no fear or apprehension about going to the good place

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They don’t want to die before they make everyone else’s life a living hell

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You think the devout ones think they're good?

Probably the opposite, dude.

The religious aren't as obtuse as Internet randos suddenly given a voice may lead you to believe. Even those who profess reincarnation believe we only get to experience this life and serve our purpose once. May as well make the most of it.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of how much you look forward to what comes after and how certain you feel about it, no one is going to want to go through the pain that comes with dying.

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if dying feels like letting go of all your pain? I can imagine dying feels good. The best part about dying is you can't be certain what it'll be like. It could be the ultimate punchline, the ultimate letdown, or just utter nonsense as you fall asleep.

Just like life, dying is out of my control so I'm just going to go with it and try to enjoy it as much as I can.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, maybe after your heart stops and your brain function starts to slow down it might be peaceful, but unless you're on a lot of painkillers the process up until that point tends to be excruciatingly painful - at least personally, thats the scary part.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i see you said this was your personal anecdote..

that said, this is just is not true (for everyone), please dont say this to people. not everyone dies in pain, or has a journey filled with it.

i work in hospice, your words could not be farther from the truth.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, as grim as it is, how many people get the luxury of a safe environment when they die, nonetheless proper care and support. Half the world barely even has access to real medicine, and even in the most developed and progressive countries, medical assistance isn't always adequate and not everything can be predicted or prevented. Not everyone meets death in pain but most do. The reality is death (and health issues in general) does tend to be scary regardless of what comes after. At the same time, thats all the more reason to care for each other and push for a safer and more caring world, be it in preventative safety measures or in proper care for those who are terminally ill, not just for the wealthy, but for everyone.

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