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Mia Khalifa fired from Playboy for her pro-Hamas posts after the Israel attack (www.businesstoday.in)

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

This smells really fishy. They quote her directly when it comes to her taking the side of Palestinians in general (aka, the oppressed population) but when it comes to her supposed support of Hamas in particular, all there is in the article is a paraphrase of THEIR version, not a direct quote.

Sounds like a political hit job.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a shit article. All she did was support the Palestinian cause and now they're putting shit in her mouth (no pun intended).

I don't like how the narrative is being forced in this conflict. They are clearing the way for something very sinister. We're about to witness a western sanctioned genocide. There's no way Israel is letting this opportunity go.

Something is going to happen soon in the West Bank too, I call it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look man, you can support Palestine, but telling the soldiers to turn their phones horizontally for better execution videos of civilians is a bit much.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that what she said?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She did, but she removed it https://twitter.com/miakhalifa/status/1710663220619313397

Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal

— Mia K. (@miakhalifa) October 7, 2023

[–] i_ben_fine@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... she didn't say that. Those words are very different.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's your choice to side with her on that. A lot of people are interpreting it as 1) a terrible time to try to be funny and 2) can easily be interpreted as support for Hamas, until she got a ton of backlash and it started to cost her money and then she 'totes didn't mean it that way, just a prank, for realz!'

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you mean another Western sanctioned genocide?

China with Uyghurs has been going on for a while with no response from the west.

Saudi Arabia, UAE etc wih Yemen, the weapons were sold for ot by the west.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how you consider the Uyghurs a western sanctioned genocide, if anything it's only the western media that is drawing any attention to it whatsoever.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no sactions though, are there?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... The west is the only one who gives a damn, but somehow it's their fault because they're not doing enough?

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

does the west give a damn though?

media reporting it I don't really qualify as giving a damn.

I would also wager that if I go out on the street here in slovakia and start asking people about it most people would look at me like an idiot and say, WTF is "Uyghurs"?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Slovakia is like, the most eastern of the West

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah yes, more misrepresentation and intentional misinterpretation of commentary in order to support the Zionist agenda. She didn’t praise or even mention Hamas in her comment at all. This article is just another cog in the propaganda machine.

This pro-Israeli propaganda cycle has been the most disgusting I’ve ever seen. People that never have a comment on anything are coming out of the woodwork, frothing at the mouth over anyone speaking out against state-backed ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Reading these comments is fucking insane.

Calling Hamas "freedom fighters" is an insult to every real current and past freedom fighter in history of mankind.

Freedom fighters dont choose targets that are exclusively civilian, they don't hunt down and execute civilians, nit caring about their beliefs or standing. They don't spread terror among the civilian population. All of these things make the thing they are fighting stronger and puts the rest of the population against them. It's what terrorists do.

Why do you think people in the zionist government support Hamas?! Because it serves to justify the hanous things the government does against Palestinians as a whole.

Real freedom fighters choose infrastructure, smaller military targets (that are reachable), political assassinations of the government officials they are against, et cetera.

These cause civilian casualties, but the civilian casualties are not the goal, they are the byproduct.

Palestinians deserve so much more than Hamas, but Hamas won't let them choose. They silence or kill anyone who disagrees with them, be it Israeli of Palestinian.

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

Fuck Hamas.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s what terrorists do.

This particular sentence is not entirely correct, as it implies that freedom fighters can't use terror tactics and thus be terrorists.

Say, if some Armenian force (there are none that'd have the balls) would bomb the Mingechaur dam, the pipes and infrastructure going through Tovuz, other smaller hydroelectric objects etc in Azerbaijan, - these would be actions aimed at fighting for freedom, but very important part of their effect would be terror.

In some way any violent activity aimed at denying someone their feeling of safety is terrorism. Like, say, allied bombing campaign of Germany (its goals were even formulated like that).

I agree that Hamas are not freedom fighters, their ideology is pretty Nazi.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

She did clarify that she was talking about Palestinian civilians filming the missile attacks on civilian homes and such, calling them freedom fighters for documenting atrocities

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"If you can look at the situation and not be on the side of Palestinians, then you are on the wrong side of apartheid and history will show that in time,"

This post on her part was fine, but the other one...not so much. She should have stuck with this one only, rather than whatever the frick murderous thing that other post was.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Keep in mind she was a Lebanese refugee that lived through the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel. I'm not condoning anything she said but she has a somewhat understandable view of the whole situation.

[–] Elric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it justifies murdering children. Got it. We know where you stand!

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Israel just murdered 200 children in 3 days, so far. Was that justified?

Oh, but they're Palestinian so they don't count. Otherwise people like you would have lost their minds decades ago.

When the Hamas murders children it's terrorism, it's an atrocity, it's inhuman (and I agree).

When the IDF murders children it's Tuesday.

It's on the news every day. And people like you couldn't care less.

Keep chewing on that nice Zionist propaganda. I choose humanity.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why can't we condemn both?

Hamas committed atrocities and Israel has responded with atrocities. That doesn't make calling Hamas "freedom fighters" in this context any less deplorable.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

lived through the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel

And what about the conflict between actual Lebanon and what became Hezbollah?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a quote for the other post? I heard it was just paraphrased, so we don't know what she actually said

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal," she wrote on the platform on Saturday.

That's all. If you're very inattentive or deliberately misinterpreting her words, you'd think that she was endorsing Hamas as "freedom fighters".

But if you DO pay attention and know anything, you'll notice that she never mentions Hamas and know that Hamas aren't usually the ones filming any of their atrocities. Add her clarification from a few days later and it's clear that she did NOT endorse Hamas and is the victim of character assassination because she had the temerity to speak up against the apartheid regime:

I just want to make it clear that this statement in no way shape or form is [inciting] spread of violence," she said. "I specifically said freedom fighters because that's what the Palestinian citizens are... fighting for freedom every day.

[–] z500@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Who else is fighting besides Hamas and the IDF?

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are other kinds of fighting than violence on a grand scale. Regular Palestinians are fighting the apartheid regime in ways big and small every day.

[–] z500@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, that's pretty much what I figured you'd say. The down vote was a nice touch.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have this odd quirk of downvoting sealions when they ask bad faith questions with obvious answers that they refuse to accept. I'm kooky like that!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you distinguish between a good faith question and “sealioning”?

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good faith question is when you're honestly seeking clarification either because you don't know something or don't know what the other person means.

Sealioning is when you're "just asking questions" in a manipulative manner with no intention of taking the answers seriously under consideration or making a valid point of your own.

It's often used in place of an actual argument when the sea lion knows that their point isn't strong enough to withstand scrutiny.

Here's the origin of the term afaik:

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

defining is when you decide or declare that a certain string of words is equivalent to a word.

distinguishing is when you decide or declare which of two categories a particular thing is in

I know the definition of these words. I’m asking you distinguish, as you read comments on the internet, which are which kind?

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net -1 points 1 year ago

I came here thinking this sounds like she might be getting woke-cancelled for suggesting Israel is pure as driven snow...

Khalifa even urged Hamas fighters to "flip their phones and film" executions horizontally in one of her posts.

Nevermind, she can go fuck herself with a cactus.

If you think military fighters executing civilians is an acceptable strategy, you probably deserve to be among those civilians and see how you like it.