Been playing Cyberpunk 2077 alongside with Phantom Liberty (Clocking in around 185 hours total) after I got it on discount and upgraded my computer after my old motherboard went brick after 10 years of service. Honestly had a blast playing it, like to get lost and immersed into Night City, really encapsulates the capitalist dystopia of market force left unchecked and the entire world is **** . Combat is pretty fun despite being fundamentally pretty basic and not ground breaking even for FPS standards as it misses certain things like able to switch firing modes for firearms or player character animations in third person is incredibly stiff and unnatural, but yet despite that it has satisfying animations, sounds and details of the weapons. Story is very flawed as it heavily rely more on metaphors and meaning rather than realism. The game is obviously about existentialism so we can't really build nor work toward socialist movement or help the people in general but rather find meaning of living in individuals we love and care. So in short, it's a fun but very and deeply flawed game, no where close to what was promised by CDPR back in 2017, which is funny because people suddenly got dementia ever since the release of Edgerunner and especially Phantom Liberty release, and refer the game as the best game ever, likely supported by the fact that similar games like Starfield, Redfall, etc are terrible games. It's really surreal when you think about it, goes to show that consumers from western world can easily get lost and forget what they're fighting for. (Also this is my first post despite being here in Lemmygrad for a while.)
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(Also this is my first post despite being here in Lemmygrad for a while.)
Did you forget your account was accepted until you logged in? Cuz I was in the same boat 😅
I actually knew my account was accepted, just for the longest time been a observer and learn how things go here.
I've been playing it a bit recently, I didn't get it when it came out. It's...fine? Like it's not a game with gripping social satire or anything, it's just a vague sort of shooty bang bang sort of game, if you like FPS games with RPG elements, you'll probably like it.
I played it at launch and generally had a pretty good time with it. I’m actually interested in a second play through, but I have been to busy to really sink time into a game lately.
But your comment is right on. If you like shooters with rpg elements, then this game is for you.
thats a weird description its not an fps with rpg elements, its an rpg with optional shooter builds, u can play the entire game in several different ways without ever touching a gun
I see, I haven't played it very much yet, so it seems like most other FPS games with an added "number go up" part. I haven't really tried to play it without guns, but the hacking stuff does seem pretty neat, if I finish this playthrough and want a second playthrough I'll probably try and focus on using guns as little as possible.
No.
Its fine? If your pc can handle ray tracing, it looks fantastic. The story is weak, PL has you literally saving the president while 5 minutes ago you were screaming ACAB at the top of your lungs, but its fun enough.
Worth a pirate. Maybe 20 - 30 bucks.
I really hated the fact that there was no option to actually oppose those "people" from the government in a meaningful way, not just help another character.
What the fuck, we have an actual terrorist in our head that would lovely kill every single one of these fuckers if he had the chance, but we CAN'T??? And when we actually abandon them, it's a mission fail and the whole DLC is inaccessible... Great
Fallout New Vegas lets you kill anyone you meet and story ACCOUNTS FOR IT. But in 2023 there's not even a hint of that in a game that calls itself RPG.
CDPR really doesn't want you killing bastards who actually are responsible for the horrible fucking state, not only of NC, but the entire country. Not even a hint of responsibility from their end, it's just corporations.
Oh yeah, I'm sure there's a whole discussion to be had about capitalist media that depicts anti-capitalist themes, but does it in such a watered down way, it's more of an aesthetic than an actual criticism of what's happening. I'm not sure if it's always meddling or if it's more that the people writing it are too liberal to have a clue how to represent such a thing. I mean, I admit that even with what I know, it is a challenge to write a fictional representation of such matters because there is always some element of it being divorced from the realities, but I'm sure if I was writing a cyberpunk-esque story, it'd be one that involves people being organized against the source of the problems and contending with the unique technological challenges involved in opposing it.
Like I say, the game is very much into existentialism, it's not about changing the society nor the world, but rather what would you do if you are put in that world. (with restrictions in the case of game being restrictive in terms of choices) Phantom Liberty is about what would you do if you are told that there is a cure but then stuck in a hard rock of whether to trust random person with immense power or US (NUSA) that promise to cure V (Player character).
its not bad now but nowhere near the hype
cant recommend you to support them financially tho
cant recommend you to support them financially
Why not?
CDPR is the main reason, I presume.
Polish gamedev, who at the start of the war in Ukraine wrote: "Slava Ukraini" in their support letter.
Polish...
Slava Ukraini...
Yeah... Also not even a hint of anti-capitalist ideas in a CYBERPUNK GAME? Pretty fucked up.
not even a hint of anti-capitalist ideas
Huh? Did you actually play the game?…
The entire premise is literally built upon a revolutionary punk rocker out on a mission to blow up a mega corp HQ.
To be honest, my claim was a bit hyperbolic, because essentially Cyberpunk as a genre is anti-capitalist, just CDPR doesn't really want it to be.
It boils down to how you want to view this game and art in general, with the original intent of developers or without it, making assumptions based on the contents of the story. And I rarely can choose the latter.
The whole game tries to tell you that corporations are the main (and only) issue, Johnny Silverhand literally says: "I've declared war not because capitalism's thorn in my side...", implying that it's not capitalism that he has problems with, but Corpos who: "Have long controlled our lives..."
But I don't view anti-corporatism as a synonym to anti-capitalism, and neither does CDPR. That's why they chose to paint a Marxist ideology as complete nonsense of some ai bot fortune teller (I'm talking about Bartmoss collective) and that's why there's not a word from Johnny criticising the system that let corporations become as powerful as they are today.
Not only a great response to my question, but also a wonderful exposition on the nuance of this matter. Good stuff comrade!
Thank you, I'm really glad you liked my response)
To be fair - Johnny Silverhand we meet is a heavily modified verison. Both memories, personality and (possibly) appearance are altered by someone, who may or may not be Yorinobu Arasaka.
Then there is base tabletop, creator of which (M. Pondsmith) is said to favour Nomads.
lies, deception and still profiting off of a game that shouldnt have been sold for at least a few more years.
then selling what they said it was gonna be in the base game as an expansion for even more money
they acted in the most scummy way the possibly could, while pretending to be victims.
I feel like if you're playing it on any year other than 2077 you're missing the point.
it's arguably more worth playing in 2024, since the skill tree system was significantly overhauled last year and the Phantom Liberty DLC is supposed to be a great addition to the game (I haven't got around to playing the DLC yet).
I played it at launch. It was buggy. But even without the bugs, it doesn't hold a candle to Witcher 3.
How's Witcher 3 politically? I stayed until the Baron, then dipped, because afaik they wanted me to feel sympathy for a monster? Been a while. Also does the gameplay improve? I do love Gwynt and Gerald is an ok protagonist with that sexy Henry Cavill mod installed
well, if the first think you ask about a game is how well is their politics, basically you get restricted only to disco elysiumn. but since you asked, is weak, at most you have the scoia tiel, but the show and the game portray then as just bandits, some court drama here and there and one quest near the end where you can kill the mad king.
the baron quest imo is one of the most interesting parts of the game imo, it shows gerald character as an honorable and compassionate man, the monster in question is a botchling, it spawns from stillborns that were not properly buried, so they are not a fault for being that way, even tho they kill people, so instead of just hacking it with your sword, you can perform a ritual to properly lay the soul to rest.
always had been, phantom liberty tho is terrible
If you have a good PC I think it looks amazing and it's awesome to wander around the world, huge fan of first person immersion. Some good voice acting and story scenes here and there.
100% yes. If you’ve played anything by CDPR before, you can expect the same level of attention to detail in the world-building and storytelling that CDPR has always been great at. It’s not an earth-shattering open-world game, but it is magnificently immersive, moreso than any other open world game I’ve played.
It also felt extraordinarily relatable.
I love it. It was rough at launch, but the story and quest lines were great. With all the updates, it's on my personal list of greatest games ever made. The writing is amazing, the environments and world are so well crafted.