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So, given AI is destroying YT, if you're any sort of a creator at all, even if you just have some random posts from years ago that you uploaded with no intention of getting popular, you really should move your stuff to PeerTube, ideally on a self-hosted instance if you have the hardware to spare, while you still can, because things are only going to get worse for YT.

Even Odysee is a decent alternative if you want more traction, but PeerTube is more ideal as an alternative platform due to having the ability to self-host an instance there and have complete control of your content and presence down to owning the infrastructure you're posting on.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve been telling people for years that if they don’t like YouTube to stop using it- and I get downvoted into oblivion.

I’ll never understand internet culture.

Entire threads dedicated to how shitty a thing is, and when someone says- “hey, not using it is an option” they get met with vitriol and abuse. .

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Users can't leave because the videos they want to watch are on youtube, and creators can't leave because their audience is on youtube.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 hours ago

They CAN leave. They just don’t want to. It’s easy to just walk away from something. Let’s not treat it like it’s an addiction. They’re just videos. You may think you’re supporting the creator, but you’re really just supporting YouTube.

If someone hates what they’re doing, they’d stop using their services. If they continue to use it, they either don’t hate it that much or need to STFU about how much they hate it.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think it's because there was a time where the Internet wasn't completely usurped by corpos yet. YouTube was phenomenal in its prime. YouTube alternatives that try to take root today can never have the same popularity or success as YouTube because they are trying to begin thrive in a completely different ecosystem. It's certainly admirable to try and salvage the wasteland it's become with pushes towards alternatives but it's just not realistic.

That and user base is important for a content creator and their options are to suck up the shitty parts of media sites or shoot themselves in the foot trying to reach an audience.

Edit: I understand the irony of posting this on lemmy: a federated reddit alternative, but I'm here mostly because I'm a spiteful hermit who doesn't want the general population's company.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're not wrong, though if I didn't like the people running the local library, where else do I go for book lending?

Ideally, video creators would just host on their own website (remember those) and maybe let viewers pipe the video through a frontend of their choosing. That's a big leap to ask of your audience though, and even bigger for a non technical creator.

I've seen some of them using Patreon to share videos with paying fans, sometimes exclusively, but with YouTube having the larger slice of the audience pie, they continue to upload to the platform.

When I think about why people might meet you with vitriol for proposing they stop using YouTube, it may be that they interpret that suggestion as you telling them not to watch the creators they enjoy. Bit of a logical fallacy there, but an appreciable one given YouTube's monopoly on small scale video content.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At least with physical books, for example, you can just take them home to read and no one will randomly yank them away from you, unlike both YT and also DRM-ridden e-book stores like Kindle.

Hell, if you straight-up buy physical books, they're yours to do as you please with.

Also...

Ideally, video creators would just host on their own website (remember those) and maybe let viewers pipe the video through a frontend of their choosing.

  • That's literally what PeerTube lets you do, well, OK, it doesn't let you host your own website ala Geocities or its modern replacement, Neocities, but it lets you host your own instance and it also lets you use whatever front-end you want, at least in theory. It doesn't go out of its way to shut down alt front-ends like YT does, in other words.
[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The library analogy may not be prefect but I figured my point was clear in that you're allowed to look through all the books for free despite not owning them, and the librarians can remove any book at any time for any reason.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just because there aren’t alternatives, isn’t really an excuse to endure abuse.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's not an excuse, but it is a reason. It's not like YouTube is required for living.

Should people living in an area served by only one electricity provider disconnect their service and just go without if the company pulls an abusive maneuver?

Most people don't even consider alternatives to the status quo. For the few that do consider pros and cons of YouTube, the pros of the platform are winning. So long as that's where the creators are posting videos, YouTube is in a position to keep winning.