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November 6th marked the 50th anniversary of Morocco, under King Hassan II, beginning the invasion and occupation of much of the territory of the Western Sahara. Today, approximately 80% of the territory of the Western Sahara is controlled by Morocco, with the Polisario Front - the government of the Sahrawis - controlling the rest, hugging the border of Mauritania. Between them lies one of the longest walls and one of the largest minefields on the planet, of which construction began in the 1980s.

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[–] companero@hexbear.net 31 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

Still smells like Minsk 3 with more tasty bait sprinkled on top to me. It technically fulfills Russia's war goals of demilitarization, denazification, protection of ethnic Russians etc, but it leaves the door wide open for a resumption of the conflict once Europe has a chance to rearm.

The stench of Strategic Sequencing and Division of Labor is difficult to ignore.

I mean, European leaders are currently screaming about preparing for imminent war within a few years, while boosting their military spending to new heights. They are not "sabotaging the peace deal." The US wants them to eventually take over the proxy war in Ukraine.

[–] Stylistillusional@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

When it comes to rearming Europe, most of it has been plegdes to do so. Even if they actually succeed in securing funding, it could easily take a decade plus to produce and integrate new weapons and personnel.

So much could change in those years. Trump will be gone and who knows what the state of the US will be afterwards. Cuts to social safety nets to fund defense is going to cause massive and constant political instability in the EU.

Even if you assume that a resumption of conflict is inevitable, it wouldn't be the worst thing to freeze it for a few years if you're Russia. Neither the EU nor the US is likely to become much more of an effective actor in those years.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The terms are very favourable for Russia though at this point in time. If anything, I don't see how Europe accepts this. Europe and Ukraine will absolutely hate this plan.

Honestly Russia not being able to take control of Ukraine in a few weeks has, paradoxically, been terrible for Europe. The United States do not see Russia as a threat conventionally. From the US perspective, Europe should be able to take care of things on it's own, as the foe is not as formidable as previously thought. So that the US can focus on China.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 22 points 12 hours ago

US bombs will hit Venezuelan soil before the ink dries. Best thing for the collective multipolarity movement is to not allow the US the privilege of Strategic Sequencing.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Still smells like Minsk 3 with more tasty bait sprinkled on top to me. It technically fulfills Russia's war goals of demilitarization, denazification, protection of ethnic Russians etc, but it leaves the door wide open for a resumption of the conflict once Europe has a chance to rearm.

Okay, so what is a W for Russia? Plausibly? Where is the off-ramp?

If this is signed Zelensky will become a political pariah. So there would be a new government, definitely . Unless you think its plausible for Russia to install a puppet as Ukrainian president.

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Also it's not clear to me whether this new proposal is where they start the negotiation, or was this written after backchannel negotiation

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll agree the plausible off-ramp is hard to see but I think at this point given the situation on the ground Russia really should demand stronger terms and bigger concessions.

So many loopholes and Russia really is facing down the fact Europe/NATO is going to go to war with it by 2030 after rebuilding their arms production capacity. This may even be part of a hail-mary push by western capital as part of a larger war with China to destroy their enemies and assure their dominance over the world for the rest of the century.

Zelensky becoming a pariah within Ukraine is not really a big victory for Russia. He's just a figurehead, not the cause, he'll be replaced by some politically convenient and relatively clean Nazi instead and Zelensky will go around the west doing speaking tours for fees of half a million dollars while promoting a ghost written book or something and buying up properties around the west to live in, speculate on, etc. Revisionism of the origins of the conflict, Nazism, human rights abuses, etc will continue at a feverish pace throughout the west and he will be very useful for stirring up hatred with lurid made up tales of Ukrainian heroism and Russian depravity.

If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg without cause, the security guarantee will be deemed invalid.

This point in particular, the "without cause" is worrisome to me because they can just invent a cause. They can do a false flag, the same thing they've been doing for years. Russia will deny it was them, say false flag, Europe and US and western media will obediently parrot "nuh uh, was totally you" and there you go they have cause. Russia then responds, NATO says you violated it, pours across the Ukraine border, quickly starts arming up and increasing Ukraine army size while protecting Ukraine with NATO assets and saying its all for self-defense and how hostile and aggressive Russia is. Alternatively Russia sees they'll do this and does nothing and Ukraine gets to conduct a terror attack on Moscow and get off scott-free. It should be more nailed down, how not sure, the weapons inspector organizations unfortunately have been totally captured by the EU and NATO and are not impartial at all so they can't be counted on. Perhaps this is one of those cases where you can't hope for perfect but it leaves me uneasy.

All parties involved in this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions during the war and agree not to make any claims or consider any complaints in the future.

This is also sickening because it means the Nazi war criminals in Ukraine who committed horrendous war crimes (including mass SA, torture, murder, etc) against their own people and against Russian soldiers, will walk free without punishment among society continuing to spread their ideology and perhaps commit crimes and indeed to be recruited as soldiers of fortune by the west for use in proxy conflicts, coups, etc against anti-imperialist forces around the world. Their sadism will be praised and exported.

In particular Ukraine has specialized in intelligence operation assassinations and terror attacks within Russia. This plan includes no specific proviso for preventing them from continuing to do that and then just disavowing or indeed from the west just recruiting from Ukrainian intelligence and their Nazis and running such ops themselves through a covert cover network that technically doesn't have the hands of the government.

Right now it sounds very much like a freeze with some territory concessions that on paper offers Russia its demands but doesn't create real conditions for lasting peace after the betrayals of Minsk 1-2.

Ukraine gets to keep all their fascist Nazi intelligence officers trained by the CIA and keep them at work, they get to keep all their drone operators, even those sent back to civilian work can be called up with their expertise at a moment's notice, they get to keep all the important infrastructure minus a standing force which can be spun up quickly with new bus-ification, all the important knowledge gleaned, all the expertise, all the important lessons learned.

~~CRITICALLY. It just caps their army size, it puts no limits on the technology they can possess or build for military purposes. It caps no weapons or weapons systems. They can go on and build 200,000 ATACMS equivalent missiles and cover their country in advanced missile defense systems, just so long as they keep enlisted numbers under a magic number. It doesn't stop them from forward deploying advanced interception capabilities plus offensive capabilities on the very front lines of the new borders. If I were Russia I would push HARD for at least a demilitarized buffer area within which Ukraine cannot deploy beyond certain established low numbers of offensive and defensive capabilities. Really they should push hard for a cap on certain offensive weapons such as missiles and offensive drones that Ukraine can build, buy, or possess at any one time. A real disarmament needs removal of arms entirely from the possession of Ukraine, not just taking them out of the hands of soldiers and putting them in boxes while continuing to build more and more advanced versions at a frantic pace all while saying how you're only building them to sell to NATO or for export or to defend yourself, etc.~~ (Edit: Apparently it may cap certain weaponry? Okay deal in that case though still not a great moral victory)

Russia might very well go for this. But I can say that war will likely return for them at the hands of Europe and even more likely as soon as the ink is dried Ukrainian intelligence, Ukrainian Nazi terror units, etc will be turned on and used against Venezuela, against AES in Africa, against partner nations too close to China for the US liking in Asia, Africa, etc. So while Russians might have reason to cheer, as anti-imperialists I don't think we have reason to cheer as this is just the empire regrouping on favorable terms for them. Very dangerous times ahead.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

However, despite all that, overall the terms of this 28 point plan are so favourable to Russia that I'm of the opinion Russia (in particular Dmitriev) leaked this plan to Axios through the Israeli intelligence linked, and White House friendly journalist Barak Ravid, during a moment of political weakness for Trump (Epstein) and Zelenskyy (Yermak), to remind the western world of Russia's core demands and apply pressure with their preferred narrative getting out first. It also makes Witkoff look like an incompetent bafooon (which he is) for his involvement in this. I mean, point 1 is about ratifying the sovereignty of Ukraine, and the next 27 points all undermine that, which is very typical of how Russia discusses Ukraine. That's why I see very little chance of this actually working, I cannot see Ukraine or Europe accepting these terms.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Okay, so what is a W for Russia? Plausibly? Where is the off-ramp?

It's a tough question, but certainly not the acceptance of a bad faith peace deal offered up by the US.

Even if Russia has a decisive victory on the battlefield and Ukrainian lines totally collapse, there are still many question marks about what should happen next.

[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Couldn't you make that argument with any peace deal? What enforcement would you like to see?

[–] companero@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago

Frankly I don't think such a negotiated compromise peace deal will work at all to permanently resolve this conflict. The US, the ultimate puppet master of Europe and Ukraine, is not operating in good faith.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 12 points 12 hours ago

Regime change.