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cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/42161794

  • US plan would require Kyiv to give up land, accept curbs to military, sources say
  • French minister: peace cannot mean capitulation
  • US army delegation is visiting Kyiv

European countries pushed back on Thursday against a U.S.-backed peace plan for Ukraine that sources said would require Kyiv to give up more land and partially disarm, conditions long seen by Ukraine's allies as tantamount to capitulation.

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European Union foreign ministers meeting in Brussels were careful not to comment in too much detail about a U.S. peace plan that has not been made public. But they made clear they would not accept demands for punishing concessions from Kyiv.

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Moscow played down any new U.S. initiative.

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A U.S. Army delegation ... was in Kyiv [and] met Ukraine's top military commander Oleksandr Syrskyi late on Wednesday. Syrskyi said he told them the best way to secure a just peace was to defend Ukraine's airspace, extend its ability to strike deep into Russia and stabilise the front line.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Money. He promised them a lot more than the other guy. Any patriotic billionaires are way more billionaire than they are patriotic.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Shouldn't there be billionaires who reveal the plan? There must be some patriots.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You don’t become a billionaire being patriotic to anything but money

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The smaller billionaires must know that the big ones will crush them. Some must be aware of disadvantages.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

No. It really doesn’t work that way at all. They are not loyal to anyone but themselves and money. There are 0 “good ones”, please understand this

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

I don't know who you have in mind, but I severely doubt it.