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Bingo, it's people doing those things.
You're taking the assertion of their humanity as somehow a defense - which is really more of a reflection on your values than on those of anyone else here. You're doing the same thing you assert (rightly) that the US attempts to do with the people they are in opposition to: you're framing them as inherently inferior, as monsters, as something other than human, and that's why you've decided to interpret what's being said here as somehow an attack on your values.
They are human. They are people. You've already admitted you pray for their deaths, because the perception you have is that those deaths would then be justified. You just don't want to admit to yourself that you're doing to yourself the exact same thing they've done - that they may feel the same way about their victims as you do about them, and as a result you're lashing out with appeals to emotion that are wasted on your audience because they're aimed to batter against an argument nobody else is making.
I am sorry dude but i think we have no way forward. You are going to see your little soldiers as poor victims because they are yours. And like i said before, American propaganda tends to make it's people over reactive of their affairs and dismissive of the rest of the world. Your culture needs this element of the hero worship of your troops, and the dehumanization of the external enemy other. You won't make me change my mind not because of my values. But because history has thought us that good intentioned traumatized soldiers are just as deadly at war as bad intentioned evil military men. This Manichean distinction i feel it's useless at war. And it is even more useless at the wars America is pushing right now that feel more like invasions and extermination campaigns. in short: Nazi shit. I am sorry if i don't love or respect or care for your soldiers.
But if you can't swallow the pill that the exterminator has more power and agency than the exterminated even at the individual level, that is your problem, not mine.
Good grief, no if you can't understand that the only person here making these claims is you then there truly isn't a way forward.
Let me highlight the problems in communication:
We agree. (edit: and you're the only one claiming it exists)
We agree.
We agree.
Nobody is asking you to do that.
Nobody is doing that.
When has that ever been a topic of discussion except to tell you that it's not relevant to the point being made?
Then i don't understand what is your problem. All of the points i made arrive to the conclusion that American soldiers are killers. Because in all American wars as of late the balance of power has tilted severely towards the American army to the point where the army and it's soldiers have all the agency in the killing. If someone does nazi shit, they might be a nazi. And there is research that points towards the possibility that military induction creates sociopathic responses in the individual, hence psycho killers.
My stupid comment in the beginning of this thread was informed by those two fundamental ideas i have.
And considering the soldiers of an invading force as an enemy is part of the nature of war. And it seems that your current Government is not content with doing extermination wars far away, they also want to threaten all it's allies and neighboring countries with war. So these military men can be safely be seen not only as enemies by a lot of neighboring countries. they are potential dangerous killers. willingly or not. And these are the rules America uses to refer to interventions and killing in other countries. they call other people things i would not to repeat in this distinguished thread to mark them as an enemy. So why are you so surprised when that language is directed not towards you, but a vague representation of american military men?
Was i trolling? yeah. Do i really feel this way? Yes.
Even though the image is very compressed, the uniforms worn are almost certainly Desert Tan 500 comprised, most likely MARPAT desert configuration. These are US marines.
Sorry, I give genuine answers to even troll questions. I like to think that those I'm messaging with are arguing in good faith and I try to give the best information and explanation from my point of view (as a civilian citizen of the US, and as an Electrical Engineer for relevant topics outside of here).