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To be fair, I think they're slightly different markets.
The AVP is a "Productivity" device and seems more focused on "Mixed Reality" use with it's super high quality passthrough and what not, vs the Frame which is more focused on gaming, has black and white passthrough and (I'm assuming) no Real World mapping so you can't have floating windows that stay where you put them in your physical space for example.
That being said I think more sales than the AVP is a guarantee, on the price alone.
If anything, the real question is if that "VR Productivity" market that Apple is targeting really exists. (didn't the HoloLens fail?)
That's true about them being different markets and also the comparison to HoloLens!
Where have you heard that Frame won't have Real World mapping?
That was just an assumption, I should probably make that clearer on my comment.
Got it, thanks for the clarification. I would be surprised if any VR headset with inside-out tracking wouldn't have real world mapping today, but we'll see!