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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

you'd have to take it at their word all of this stays inside the device.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

None of what's been mentioned above requires server-side processing.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, as you do with any software. A computer is always looking at your data and input. That's how it works. Unless you audit it yourself, you have to take someone else's word it isn't doing something it isn't supposed to.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

haha touché, computers always invade your privacy anyway!

apple stans always with the very best reasoning.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am absolutely not an Apple Stan. I hate Apple. I'm on Linux for a reason, and my phone is running Android (which I also hate, but whatever). You're reasoning was just bad.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

for starters, foss code is audited collectively, not individually.

please don't believe what apple marketing says at face value.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol. I don't. However, you're acting like just displaying something is an indication of them sending the data off. You do know the text message itself is not just displayed on the screen, right? It takes in some bytes of data and processes it, and them uses that to select characters to print to the screen. It has to process the messages no matter what. This little effect isn't anything more dangerous than the characters being rendered to the screen. Both of them are just processing the data in a message to choose what to display.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

you’re acting like just displaying something is an indication of them sending the data off

no i dont, and i dont quite get what you mean and why you are saying that. people get very overprotective of apple.

i'm simply telling you not to believe their marketing at face value. data is money.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Your comment that started all of this:

so... is ios reading all your messages now or what

You're message implies you think it's being sent off to Apple for processing because of this effect. You further prove this is what you meant later.

If course, the comment is technically correct. It is reading your messages. It has to to even display the text, so obviously it is. It always has been and always will, and the same goes for every other phone that has ever existed or will ever exist. It's a requirement for you to interact with it.

This does not mean it's being sent to Apple. It gives us no insight into whether that's happening either. It is neither necessary nor sufficient for that. All that we can understand from this feature is that your system is reading your messages, which again is a requirement for them to display them at all.

This is not defending Apple. It's arguing against stupid takes. It has nothing to do with Apple. I hate them and will point out when they're doing anything I even slightly don't like. This isn't evidence of anything (except being a dumb feature that I don't even want).

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

While Apple's code isn't open-source, I believe they've subjected their code to third-party audit in the past for confirmation that the data isn't being sent off-device.

So kind of, but not entirely.