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[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What country? I’m sure there’s exceptions that you don’t know about, the laws normally don’t disallow their use, it’s in how the data is stored.

A security system that doesn’t record, but is watched by someone would be legal anywhere for example. Just the fact that there’s one, means sweet fuck all.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That applies to audio… not video recordings mate.

Why are you telling me to chill? Because I used a bloody swear word…?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It applies to both.

Yes and because you need to chill.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No… your link even specifies that….

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It’s the internet, people can swear dude.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In my state it’s both.

Yes you can. You still need to chill.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’ve never heard of that before… and Google shows zero results for “states with two party consent for video recording” all links are for audio… what state… please… how many times do I need to ask nicely so we can solve this?

Just because you’re wrong and got called out doesn’t mean the other person is being aggressive lmfao.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right because a quick google search makes you a legal expert…

For real chill.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it so odd, that someone knows how to read and understand code and law books? It’s part of any tradesperson training.

I know it’s not a thing, from plenty of research into my own camera systems, and I am confident that I know the results I found are correct, because I know how to understand code and law books.

And no it doesn’t, but the lack of any results shows that you’re full of fucking shit.

Again, just because someone swears doesn’t mean they are being aggressive! It’s common repertoire for a lot of working people! Sorry princess!

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am a compliance expert. I too am confident in my assessment of the legal situation.

I am officially tagging you as a troll and moving on with my life. You seriously need to learn to chill.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

I am a compliance expert.

Yet you claim there is two party consent for video, won’t provide anything to support that claim, and the one link you did specifically says it doesn’t…

. I too am confident in my assessment of the legal situation.

People can be confidently wrong, like in this case..

Awwwwhhh I upset muffin by using logic and reason to refute them.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your link completely refutes what you're saying lol

The legality of video recording hinges on the concept of a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” You are permitted to record video of your own property and public spaces visible from your property, such as sidewalks and the street in front of your house.

Maybe try reading it next time "compliance expert"

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.

The article is just a general overview of specifically Ring cameras and not specific to any one state or other recording devices. In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras, though we have Flock cameras here so yeah…

Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.

Reasonable expectation of privacy applies to video recording, audio recording, and still photography. You can be in a public space having a private conversation if you can reasonably expect no one would be able to hear it, but you can't have a conversation in front of a plainly visible surveillance camera and then claim you were being eavesdropped on. You don't even truly need to "consent" to being recorded, you just have to have knowledge that it is happening.

That's also not what you said, your original comment was "it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street".

In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras

I'd love to see a law on the books anywhere that says this. License plates do not have more rights than people. By "compliance expert" did you actually mean that you're a cop? Usually cops are the ones going around spreading legal misinformation like this.

Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?

You were so confident that you were correct that you brazenly posted something that contradicted your misinformation without reading it.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I meant that the article was talking about non audio cameras. What you are saying specifically depends on if you are in a single party state or not and what your state laws are.

What I said was it isn’t enforced but if somebody wanted to pursue you legally they could.

People in this thread would clearly be surprised about the things that are in the legal books. In the town I grew up in it was illegal to drive a car on a paved road. But that law was written at a time when horses were still more common than cars. Likewise the license plate law in my state was written long before cameras had the resolution to do that from a porch without a large zoom lens and was specifically written to prevent people putting security cameras on mailboxes and other places close to the street. This has created a legal gray area for ring cameras which is pretty much what the article and I in my original post was saying; It’s illegal but not enforced though if somebody wanted to pursue it they could.