this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2025
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Of course Android counts. It is Linux. So Linux already won the phone OS space (save for Apple) and there's no real reason to talk about it.
Nah, it's made by Google who are actively kneecapping it. Technically it counts, but in spirit it doesn't count to me. It's like…the PS4 runs on Linux too, but nobody celebrates a 100% locked down box as a triumph for Linux.
it actually runs on a derivative of FreeBSD
Which is important because BSD is not GPL licensed
Unlike the PS4 OS, Android comes in many flavours, many of which are completely de-Googled, free, and open-source.
I hate Windows enough that any OS that is a Unix-like counts as a W no matter how small. MacOS and iOS are ultimately based on BSD and Android is Linux, just not GNU/Linux.
No it doesn't really count, just because it uses the kernel doesn't mean it has the same spirit as desktop GNU/Linux does
You really hit the nail on the head by including GNU. The philosophy of free software is embedded in the GNU components, Linux was basically just about making an OS kernel that's practical and useful, nothing more and nothing less.
It's really more about the philosophy than about how many GNU components you fit into your system. On android you the predominant assumption is that the vendor is trusted to control the device instead of the user.
It really doesn't feel like winning.