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Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Throwback to the George Floyd protests when some people blamed the excessive use of force by the police on training they received from the Israelis. Like american pigs need help to be violent.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

They literally did need help to be violent. It took decades of desensitization and go back 2 slave patrol training to make police in America believe that looking at a crowd and thinking “look at those weak little babies. If it weren’t for me anyone could use violence to control them. One of them is probably a criminal right now!” Was good operator mindset instead of a hackneyed exaggeration of a 70s movie!

Before israel was the settler apartheid police training state of the day it was South Africa, for the exact reason that advanced techniques of using violence to suppress the population were being developed there. Once South African apartheid “ended”, israel took that role because it was the big dog techno-fascist state model then.

The techniques and technologies developed in israel are exported as a product to other nations as a way to pacify and control the populace.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

i see where you're coming from here, because american pigs are racist and violent. but the IDF really showed them how to pop off with that shit and there's no denying it.

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yea maybe not just regular violence but American cops learn plenty from the IDF

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/08/us-police-agencies-idf-files-blueleaks

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Its not about absolving americans pigs, its about developing a greater understanding of international webs of oppression. Yes Israhell is very valuable to the empire in the sense that it is the laboratory for population control, suppression and surveillance methods and those are being imported back into the west.