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Just to be clear, this is about supplements. It’s doesn’t say anything about differences in dietary protein.
The actual title:
And supplements are largely unnecessary, so this study says absolutely bupkis.
Right, for the average person, protein supplements are unnecessary as long as they are healthy and eat well.
Athletes (and people with body dysmorphia 😬) might struggle to get enough protein in their diet. But, far too many people think they’re in a position that would warrant supplements when just a little attention to diet is sufficient.
beef cake. beef cake.
Were these subjects athletes or were they just people who were weight training?
Doesn’t matter. The point of the research was to determine if there was a difference between animal and plant based protein supplements for adding muscle. The results would apply to anyone.
And if neither has much effect, the study is pointless.
I hope there was a control group who had a placebo supplement.
That’s not how science works. You do experiments even to find out if it is pointless.
But, yes, they should have a control group.
So the research was pointless because we can't tell the difference without a control group. Further research needed.
That doesn’t make it pointless.
There is something to be learned from this. Using a control would answer a different question.
Using a control group would tell us if there's any gain from the supplements whatsoever, was basically my point. For the average person using supplements doesn't do much for weight gain as far as I hear, so that's why I was asking what kind of people these subjects were, if they were athletes or regular people doing weight training. So, it does matter.
And, my point is that calling this research pointless is just wrong because it answers à different question.
I’m not disagreeing that the question that you want answered should be studied. It should. But, the fact that this research doesn’t answer your question doesn’t make it pointless.
It’s perfectly valid research to study whether the results are different between animal-based and plant-based supplements. I didn’t go through the citations but they say:
which sounds like the research you’re asking for has already been done.
Alright, valid points from both sides. 🤝
There are many other reasons to take protein supplements. High protein foods can be expensive (protein can be too but there are many options). It's also a quick add to a meal vs prepping an entire meal.
You don't need to be an athlete to workout 5 days a week and if you want to visually see some of the results protein supplements help. It can also help with recovery whether you're strength, training or training your body in any other way. You don't have to be an athlete to want to be physically fit. Protein can help.
Edited the title to clarify
What was the original title, just to make some of the comments make sense? I can't seem to find a way to lookup the history
I don't understand the distinction you're making.
Unless the study controlled for the subjects' regular diet and non supplement protein, its conclusions don't mean much.
For example, if I get 100+g of protein on a typical day then, a 19g protein bar is a nice addition, but it's in the minority compared to the rest of my protein sources.
What relevance does that have? Plenty of studies in the past have already demonstrated dietary plant protein is just as good for you as animal protein.
Huh? It’s what the research is about.
The full article is linked right here in the post. It reviews the background of why they're studying this
Well, exposing the click bait in the title and providing context about the actual study involved is relevant because ...it exposes the click bait in the title and provides context about the actual study involved.
This is not relevant to the context of the article, and like the vegan at a party, it's good information but not part of the discussion about protein supplements during strength training except as an adjacent fact about diet and not about strength training directly nor supplements.
Because meat lovers.