I was trying to think for a couple days on what can be done to make Linux phones a reality. Then I realized the EU is already pushing for more Open Source/ Linux to be used so why not make the most of it?

So if I may make a couple suggestions for Europe Linux enthusiasts and collectively all of us to push for:

1st. For EU and Europe to partner up with PostmarketOS, Mobian, Ubuntu Touch, Edited In: Next Iteration of GrapheneOS for their partnership, and FSF Librephone Project to fund/produce/distribute open source repairable changable OS linux phones . Then for future tablets. To have multiple eggs developing

2nd. For EU and Europe to partner up with KDE, Framework, and Tuxedo Computers to fund/produce/distribute Laptops/Computers

Edited In: 3rd. Partner up with OEM Manufacturers such as Nokia and Motorola. Both of whom have good track records

Linux Community over there has so much ability to grow Linux if everyone there collectively gets it done. I humbly request you do that and I’ll do the same. Who should I call to get all this going as well? Want to help do this in a way that benefits all sides while keeping those projects independent

(I would have posted this on LinuxPhone but this community is way bigger and still open source related)

Really hoping all of you in and out of Europe and EU can push for it to be done. Edited In: Maybe Latin, African, and Asian Countries can partner up as well to make it happen even faster. But the most protections are within the EU so far

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[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

i am still not convinced about a linux phone.

Or rather this already exist, GrapheneOS is a thing. And they are even working on a partnership with an oem manufacturer.

I dont see what use case there is, that is not super niche, that justifis having and developing a "linux phone", instead of an actual secure device, which graphenOs already provides.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is still based on Android, with all its restrictions and annoyances. I want a free device more than a secure one.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Andorid can be forked any day, can it not?

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Very true and agree GrapheneOS is awesome and a very good thing they are doing with that partnership. Europe can partner with GrapheneOS as well since you mentioned them.

Security and privacy are both fundamental and even though they are behind compared to GrapheneOS it does not mean we can't catch up. Alternatives are a part of life whether it is picking where to live, what/where to buy, what to buy for ingredients to make food, etc. The use case is they want to use open source already for sovereignty and long-term they will be just as good as GrapheneOS in long-term.

Yet we cannot rely on just 1 egg we need a whole nest of them so any of them can have a chance of succeeding. The ones in post mentioned don't have an oem manufacturer partnered with yet either

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Europe can't, nor will partner with Graphene OS because 1) Graphene OS likely won't exist in 5 years with android becoming more and more closed, and 2) Graphene OS is still forced to use:

Google phones
proprietary android drivers
proprietary Google services via shared accounts for some services
manufacturer baseband modems, which are closed and very few people know how much data they send and where

I applaud your initiative and enthusiasm, but there are significantly more hurdles than simply convincing the EU to partner with a few companies.

If you are serious about this, start looking at projects Steam is supporting (like Proton) and figure put how we can get more developer time into existing Linux phone solutions.

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Will for sure do the last part to support Proton, and developer time in those Linux phone solutions they have covered. Just trying to figure out the new hardware too so we are not locked out fully from new tech

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Great points non so no worries! Aren't they partnering with a new OEM though? But I guess that would probably still have the same problem

Thinking to put together a website of what people have suggested in various posts to develop this initiative more overtime in various ways. Any other problems you can think of?

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

It would be PostmarketOS, Plasma, Ubuntu Touch, ... not GrapheneOS.