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Facebook suspends popular Chicago ICE-sightings group at Trump administration’s request
(chicago.suntimes.com)
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2025
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People should use briar or signal groups for this stuff. Or host something outside of the US.
Neither of those are safe. Needs to be self hosted outside the country, as you said. Roll your own or don’t do it at all.
Why do you not consider Signal safe?
While Signal is definitely one of the more secure Methods of communication, it requires a phone number to sign up. I realize that phone number may be stored somewhat securely… But it is definitely an anonymity issue. They just simply should not require this. Also, no matter what any company says, I just don’t trust them with any amount of information. So, if I was going to use an online messaging service to commit crimes, I definitely wouldn’t use something that I did not have 100% control over. But of course, do I have those skills? I think I might, but… I’m not building my own encryption for good reason.
How is Briar not safe? Its self hosted and peer to peer. There is probably nothing safer and more censorship resistant that Briar.
Just use a whisper
What even is that? Is it open source? Has it been audited? Is it decentralized?
It’s older than all of those. Anyone can do it, I would guess. Although, it’s range isn’t as good.
Bruh
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Just don't.... roll your own encryption. Use a trusted standard and roll out your own self-hosted encrypted comms service.
Yes. Agreed. It’s one thing to build a rest API for a chat client, it’s another to think you’re smart enough to outsmart a trained professional with a “quantum computer”
And if speed is not a concern you can always use a really slow encryption. Even 10 seconds for a short message can be perceived as an acceptable amount of time but in the world of encryption 10 seconds will generate a very very secure message