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After the deportations are done, when the economic crash is looking much worse, he'll need enemies of the people to turn on - and who knows how brutal things might get then.
The aim may well be enough to delay elections indefinitely, which would require a lot of blood. It may not stop.
The first year of many.
We have never suspended elections in this country, not even during the Civil War. That is a BRIGHT RED LINE.
If he suspends elections for ANY reason, it's on. That is officially the end of our Democracy, and the end of America. Without elections, we have no government at worst, and a different government at best, but either way, Democratic America is dead, and I am then a citizen of a non-existent nation.
If I'm not a citizen, I'm not paying taxes, following any laws, or recognizing ANY authority.
Why is no government the worst outcome? Why are you against self governance?
Well, you see, most of us happen to like modern niceties like...
Running potable water, electricity, garbage disposal, the internet, easy access to food, etc.
But would you ever storm the Capitol Building to interrupt or invalidate an election verification? Suspend the results ...and if they had better luck that day your statement would look silly today...
...and they almost did. But sure, perhaps YOU wouldn't do these things in YOUR country.
Is it reasonable to assume that they will be "finished" at some point? AFAIK the nazis were still deporting people right up until 1945.
That assumption is based on the deportations being the objective. They aren't. They are just the beginning of their agenda.
Guantanamo Bay currently can hold about 200 people. They are currently building a facility there that holds 30,000 people. For context, the average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 people. The largest, in Angola, LA, holds about 5000.
So they are building a facility to incarcerate about 6 times what our largest facility holds, which is already several times larger than average. Even following 9/11, when we thought there were terrorists hiding around every corner, we didn't feel it was necessary to build such a huge prison. The Gitmo facility will be far from the prying eyes of family, lawyers, courts, and especially the Media. If the court demands someone be released, and they choose to defy the court, who is going to go there and break that person out?
They obviously feel like they are going to have to imprison a LOT of people at some point, and NONE of them are talking about it at all. Neither is the media. In fact, I'll bet 99% of America have no idea that such a facility is being built.
Who do they plan on sending there, and for what reasons? The media needs to start talking about this.
Edit:
Trump orders opening of migrant detention center at Guantánamo Bay This article is more than 8 months old President signs executive order instructing preparation of facility to house 30,000 immigrants at US naval base in Cuba
Any sources on that? Not trying to be a dick, but that’s a pretty big one to drop without some sourcing.
Here's the executive order:
Expanding Migrant Operations Center at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay to Full Capacity
Here's a solid article about it:
Trump orders opening of migrant detention center at Guantánamo Bay. President signs executive order instructing preparation of facility to house 30,000 immigrants at US naval base in Cuba
A bunch of construction contracts have been awarded, and construction is under way. Interestingly, it is due to be completed in 2029, AFTER Trump will be out of office, and not able to play with his shiny new toy.
If you want to know more, you know how to spell Google.
If you want to know more, you know how to spell Google.
Maybe I should have tried to be a dick? Who wants to fact check everything they read about on the internet? Sometimes it’s nice to see a source along with a big claim. Maybe it’s just me.
Thanks for the source, but you can keep the rest.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-instruct-homeland-security-pentagon-prepare-migrant-facility-2025-01-29/
This seems to be the 30,000 number, but it looks like it's mostly a nebulous increase in most other places.
It's all over the Wikipedia and stuff.
I'm pretty sure well round up the homeless next, but nobody outside really has any idea what's going on.
Though, I guess political prisoners might make sense too. We already use it for stuff that is not completely in alignment with our values.
Hell, Trump's homies may get paid even if nobody ever goes there.
Well that’s disappointing.
It would be on brand to send homeless people there instead of just providing support locally. Why not be as cruel as possible while shoveling Public funds to private entities. I’m wondering how many more of us become homeless as we seemingly do the worst possible things for our population.
What's the 30k prison project?
See my edit.
Well you don't really 'deport' groups like trans people, gays, handicapped, non Christians, or liberals. Thats why they're normalizing concentration camps.
Oh silly, this isn't 1945!
Nothing like that.
Our brutality is far cleaner.
It's an informational autocracy!
No, it's not 1945, it's 1933.
People who make that mistake probably really need a reminder that todays fascist USA is not exactly like it was in Germany back then.
Snark aside, the video seems to make an important point, and I will watch all of it. The 1st minute reminds me of Hypernormalisation.
And please go to a sub called THE POLICE PROBLEM and watch some of the recent clips of masked goons abducting people in droves. There's nothing clean about it.
OK, I watched the video now. She makes an important point but I think it would be wrong to paint it as an either/or situation: many forms of autocracy have always been present, though the weighting has certainly shifted.
Catholics, Italians, European Spanish, and eastern Europeans are up next after the brown people are gone
Probably Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, and Mormons too.
Morman's have too much money, they'll be fine. Plus, they're white.
No that makes them more of a target