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Portland cyclists strip down in pouring rain to protest ICE facility and Trump troop deployment
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this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2025
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Because you advocate for ineffectual solutions against brutal violence. You want to know a fun fact about Gandhi? He offered medical assistance to the soldiers of the British Empire. Pacifism in the face of evil is bad enough, but browbeating people and sucking all the air out of the room with disgusting antics is complicity. Don't bother trying to hide it, because the double standards of when liberals choose to roll over and show their belly and when they hiss and scratch is pretty goddamn clear!
I see a lot of yapping and double standard. Where is your effort? I just see you’re doing a lot of browbeating on people who are doing something while all you do is criticize them online and attempt to suck all the air out of the room, according to your standards you’re complicit of genocide.
I think any form of protest is the most patriotic thing you can do. And I mean, might as well dress up as a frog or streak while you still have those freedoms, those in these other countries don’t have that freedom.
What a 🧌
Are you surprised we haven't focused to that when we are stuck on debating the effectiveness of actions you know don't work? They are purely symbolic and done chiefly to make people feel better about their powerlessness. That itself is harmful, because you are lying to people about a miracle cure for fascism called doing fuck all.
I already answered the question broadly of what would even make strategic inaction like boycotting capable of pressuring organizations or political figures, it's an organization that has real leverage politically, not an NGO that plaintively asks for better institutions or malicious ones to reform themselves. An organization that can apply pressure with the legitimacy of those demands. Demands alone are not impressive, and reminding everyone over and over what a good boy who follows the rules of protests and nonviolence and boycotting you are reinforces you have zero intention of being a threat to the people euthanizing your homeless population! You think that's going to manifest in delinking from the USA? We both get all of our goods from China one way or another. What the US is ripping you apart with now particularly, like the UK, is destroying public services, bringing in pvt equity and our infamous insurance companies. You cannot boycott your hiking rent and Perestroika. Think bigger.
Still complicit of genocide since all you do is complain online to those who are doing something
That's correct, the difference is being aware that you are promoting inaction by framing a boycott as resistance against fascism. I am advocating for plotting an effective course of action rather than disorganized symbolic actions that make people feel good about themselves. You are advocating for following the boilerplate protest strategy that has been used to sabotage antiwar movements for decades.
Actually only you brought up boycotting, it’s apparent you’re getting your arguments mixed up.
You cannot make the argument here that boycotting is effective while arguing with a different user on another thread that boycotting isn’t effective. Your hypocrisy is blinding.
So according to your thought process advocating an effective course of action means angry comments online about how those doing something isn’t enough something - I don’t see how yelling online about how people aren’t doing enough while giving no solutions will make any positive impact here. Your hypocrisy is the only point you’ve actually made.
Since I advocate for joyful militancy and just finished a 16 hour shift helping those in need, I’m going to be done with you now, the 🧌stench is unbearable.
Yep that's true, I'm getting these delightful batches of mentions about how liberal nonviolent strategies are going to stick it to the fascists, which make indistinguishable pleas for me to acknowledge the effectiveness of political irrelevance. Only boycotting is a step above stripping down in front of the Nazis and making a fool of yourself. If you don't see how these events are part of the same ideological bent you should probably check on what the people involved with them are saying. What is needed are strikes, at bare minimum. If you are wondering "well how am I supposed to strike?" you've got a question that will build a whole roadmap ahead of you.