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Over the past few years I have gone through a bunch of different apps and protocols to find the best one for "securely" communicating with my family and friends.

I ended up with the amazing XMPP protocol and my family/friends frequently use its clients to contact me.

Monal for IOS and Cheogram/Conversations/Quicksy for Android. The android app I install depends on if I can get F-Droid on their phone or not.

It's been great with OMEMO encryption and the clients/apps available for XMPP. But sometimes I have issues introducing people to it.

Jabber (friendly name for xmpp) sounds silly to say. The clients all have weird names. And after trying the Signal mobile app it feels more focused than what anyone in the XMPP community has whipped up.

But the capabilities of XMPP makes it better.

Signal Cons (immediete)

  • Centralized
  • Single app
  • Phone numbers

XMPP/Jabber Cons

  • Picking server
  • Apps are sort of less friendly

What really scares me about Signal is the centralization. Any nerd can easily host an XMPP server these days. But Signal from what I've heard really wants us to use their server.

If XMPP gets more attention I'm sure we can get people supporting projects and creating better apps.

I keep seeing people recommended Signal instead.

This is a bit of a tired ramble. What I wanna know is why anyone is preferring Signal over XMPP apps. I assume it might be not knowing about it. Tell me what you use to message people.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

til about ayugram, thanks for the rec, ill try it out.

do you happen to know of anything similar for whatsapp?

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

None whatsoever sorry. I got made fun of as a Westoid for mentioning Whatsapp though, apparently the cool kids are on Viber now.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

it's hugely popular in my global south country, but i think they are more proactive in blocking third party clients. i hate it with a passion.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

100% it is aggravating that I cannot make something as simple as a chat relay on the mighty computer. It is the work of depraved individuals