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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The only way the AI bubble won't burst will be its complete integration into the military industrial complex and surveillance state, which is already underway.

AI traffic correlation for deanonymizing VPN users, ai tracking of all cellphone users across the US carrier networks, tracking of all people across all security cameras,...

This is just the beginning. And its all propped up by military spending from the US government.

"Data is the new oil" and all that? Is about undermining any 4th amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure. And AI is the latest (glitchy) tool to automate all of this.

But consumer facing side? Yeah, that's gonna burst.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

LLMs can't do most of those things and traffic analysis and other techniques already can but sometimes lack the data due to data sharing limitations.

You don't need GPUs to do traffic analysis you just need more Five Eyes, TIA, room 641A stuff.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly right. Parent poster is conflating the investment in "AI" since 2022 (almost exclusively meant to mean LLMs, like ChatGPT) and specialized "AI" systems (almost exclusively "machine learning" systems).

A LLM is just about useless for any sort of surveillance or data analysis tasks. The bigger fear with LLM proliferation is as a propaganda machine, astrotufing the whole Internet with mass LLM-generated bullshit.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You don't need GPUs to do traffic analysis you just need more Five Eyes, TIA, room 641A stuff.

Oh, entirely. But that also theoretically benefits from AI: https://www.sciencedirect.com/org/science/article/pii/S1546221824004636

Hence things like: https://mullvad.net/en/vpn/daita

But further? I'd encourage you to explore what Gospel and Lavender are.