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Replying to myself because the rest would just be copy and paste.

How is the death of hundreds of thousands in what’s mostly a stalemate better than the alternate realities? And also, given that the original conflict was tiny, explain to me how this improved it.

We’re supposed to be in support of the people. How is this shit supposed to help them in any way, and how is this shit even the least bit materialist?

(I know where this came from)

Putin’s worst action in Ukraine was waiting 8 years for the Nazis to build up instead of destroying them in 2014

Any socialist government would have invaded Ukraine in 2014, the writing was on the wall with how banderites were invading all aspects of civil and cultural life, Putin was being extremely liberal.

Also the US already admitted that the Ukrainian intervention was an attempt at Russian regime change and we have troves of analysis on how Ukraine was the death kneel to any remaining EU sovereignty and checks against the US as fuel-caused austerity goes into effect as the EU deindustrializes.

No this is revisionist.

You are pretending as though Ukraine didn’t outright dismissed the Minsk Agreements and let NATO militarize for over 8 years while Putin waited, that Russia didn’t repeatedly ask the US to resolve the security issue in Ukraine through diplomacy (that’s what the US-Russia Summit in Geneva in June 2021 was all about) only to be repeatedly and outright ignored by the US while weapons continued to be sent to Ukraine, that Ukrainian Nazis did not continue to assault upon and ethnically cleanse the Russian people in the Donbass region, that the Ukraine military wasn’t planning on recapturing the lost territories after the civil war through military means.

If anything, Putin waited too long.

LOL excuse me, ukrainian nazi squads literally went around and murdered russophone & communist citizens of ukraine. They are literally even the most nazi-ridden, pro-israel state in europe at the moment, yes that says something. Putin invading ukraine was his best act ever.

The site as a whole was outright shocked when he invaded in 2022, and now we’re here

And zero lessons have been learnt.

Don't listen to the words of world leaders, even the words of those in countries opposed to the west. They aren't worth much of anything.

Watch actions, not words.

Luhansk is no longer being bombed and Mariupol is no longer occupied by nazi militias. Despite Putin dragging his heels for almost a decade, the unstoppable bloodlust of the west eventually forced him to do the right thing.

I was shocked because the west was saying there were "150,000" troops built up on the border, when Russia would have needed triple that for starters before initiating a vaguely successful invasion. Morally, invading Ukraine was the right choice to rescue Donbas. Militarily, it was half cocked.

I wasn't shocked, despite not being on hexbear yet, and I don't think trying to deal in "good or bad" is really a Marxist position.

Ultimately Russia made the smart move instead of waiting for fully established NATO bases on their border with Ukraine. Preemptively striking your enemy as they blatantly are preparing for war with you is not a bad move.

Initiating the conflict has been very useful for the enemies of imperialism, burning through NATO stockpiles and cash, sharpening contradictions and building unsustainable economic pressure. Not to mention the Nazis from around the world who have rushed to die in Ukraine, it's like a fly trap for fascists who would otherwise be in their respective nations organizing for fascism. It also proved the western sanctions regime has limits and pushed the entire global south further from the US.

Not to mention how much extra support Israel would have right now if so much wasn't going to Ukraine.

So no, having a material analysis is not bad, it is actually Marxism, and having a clear headed view of the situation isn't the same as praising the actors involved or supporting all their decisions, beliefs, or aspirations.