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[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

i don't think niche devices can save us though.

we need banking, government apps, all sort of garbage that won't be allowed with a ten foot pole on these. rooted androids are barely allowed as it is.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sure; but we won't close that gap immediately. Intermediate progress can be helpful for further progress.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

sure, i just think linux phones are still a ways out. i say that as a linux nerd.

and they won't be available in my country for a while i bet.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's still Android kernel and drivers :/ but it is private. For Linux you'd need postmarket or one of their derivatives and they are fighting to get cameras and power under control.

prob the best we have at the moment.

edit: to be clear, I'm saying Halium is the best we have at the moment, real linux is trucking along but it's still a long way out.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

and what's the problem with android other than google's fuckery?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming google's fuckery doesn't affect them, nothing.

But we're relying on google to keep up that code and not see them as a threat. Right now AOK, but in the future that makes longevity questionable.

It's something to be noticed and understood so there's no surprises when the company that did no evil now does all the evil.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

they can take down the code today and not much will happen, as the code is mirrored elsewhere.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

Obv, they can't take what we have, which is why for now we're OK. The winds are shifting, though. I expect at some point, I expect android will require a deal with the devil from manufacturers. Start actively combatting linux phones.

For now, it's a quick path to privacy, long term, we're going to need friendly hardware