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Ukraine’s president says Kremlin checking Europe’s capacity to protect its skies following new drone sightings

Vladimir Putin will expand his war in Ukraine by attacking another European country, Volodymyr Zelenskyy has predicted, and accused Russia of recent drone incursions that he said were an attempt to test Nato’s defences.

Speaking in Kyiv after his meeting with Donald Trump at the UN in New York, the Ukrainian president said Russia was preparing for a bigger conflict. “Putin will not wait to finish his war in Ukraine. He will open up some other direction. Nobody knows where. He wants that,” he said.

Ukraine’s president said the Kremlin was deliberately checking Europe’s capacity to protect its skies, after drone sightings in Denmark, Poland and Romania and the violation of Estonian airspace by Russian fighter jets. More drones were spotted on Friday night above a Danish military base, and over a Norwegian base on Saturday.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue that attacking Ukraine was only stupid in hindsight. With the information they had at the time, it looked like a very good plan. Most outside observers figured Ukraine would last weeks at most. No one expected Russia's military to prove so ineffective, and even with all the training and support they'd gotten from NATO since 2014, Ukraine's military still seriously exceeded expectations. Russia didn't act stupidly, but they did fail to correctly assess the relative military readiness of themselves and their opponents.

Which really only further reinforces your point that attacking NATO would be suicide, and Russia is painfully aware of that. They're not stupid, and with everything they've learned since attacking Ukraine they now how a much more accurate picture of how their equipment and tactics would fare against those of NATO.

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Russia didn't act stupidly, but they did fail to correctly assess the relative military readiness of themselves and their opponents.

I think it’s fair to say that Russia has since acted stupidly and continues to act stupidly. The meat-grinder approach may have worked with an overwhelming man power advantage and at least some training. Instead they’ve just hemorrhaged men, equipment, and morale by just throwing untrained and under-equipped soldiers at the front line.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Happy to agree on that score. While I don't think the decision to invade Ukraine was, in of itself, a stupid one, there's absolutely a lot of bad choices that have been made at the operational level since then. The distinction matters because you have to remember that these decisions are made at different levels. The decision to invade was made by Putin and a handful of his closest advisors. The decisions about how to run the war... Well, a lot of those aren't so much decisions as long-standing Russian / Soviet theories of warfare collapsing in the face of reality. The problems are doctrinal, and deeply embedded. But it's also important to be aware that the Russians are, slowly, learning from these failures and contuing to adapt to their new reality.

I think these distinctions are important, because it would be foolish to treat Putin as an idiot. He's not. He's a terrifyingly intelligent and dangerous individual, and the fact that he's running a country like Russia is a problem for everyone. It would also be foolish to assume that the Russian military will continue to make those kinds of operational mistakes going forward. A lot of what you're seeing is less "stupidity" and more "big ships make slow turns."

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Agree, their initial invasion was evil, but not a 'stupid' idea, they had experience of just waltzing in with little resistance with barely a 'shame on you' in terms of consequences for their adventures prior.

Their making it a point of pride and pressing when it became clear a victory would not be worth whatever the price will be, that was and continues to be stupid.