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Not sure if I'm a fan of this (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 6 days ago by MellowFellow@sh.itjust.works to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world
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Playing some Counter-Strike 2 and then a GNOME donation notification pops up 😅

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Nevermind the donation pop-up, how can people use gnome? It's unusable, it interface is literally the worse UI I've ever had the displeasure of using only second to macOS.

I believe that gnome is actually what is keeping many people away from gnu/linux, since it's default on many distros, people install "linux" and they get gnome and gnome sucks so they hate on linux instead of hating gnome.

[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use it and like it. No strong opinion here, it just works well for me.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I was into it back when Gnome 3 came out... the problem is that I had to fill too many "holes" (for me, maybe not for everyone) in the functionality with extensions and those were quirky as fuck. You never knew what was going to stop working (or work differently) any day but without them, I could not function properly

And just to give you an idea of how tolerant I am with risk... my daily driver now is Garuda Linux with Hyprland instead of a desktop that I configured from scratch... my browser of choice is FireDragon which is a fork of Floorp which is a fork of Firefox

I am certain it is better now than it was back then... but once you are comfortable with an environment, it is a pretty tall order to switch around.

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well, I use it, I like it, and I can confidently say it's not for everyone

You gotta think the gnome way. Like, for example, I don't feel the absence of the minimize button because I adopted gnome's workspace-based flow

It doesn't get in my way, I don't even feel its existence most of the time. Gnome 3 sucked and definitely got in my way but beware that I am talking about gnome 4x here.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Context: I'm an i3 and plasma user depenending on my machine with one exception.

I find Gnome to be in the way 100% of the time, until I put the mist and konquer down and start using the touchscreen. Its a nice DE for touch oriented devices, but it really sucks to navigate with moist and keybread imho.

Edit: the one time I don't fix my spelling someone comes along and says something. I'm gonna make it worse 😈

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Ah, yes, the classic …

  • noise and keyboard

  • moist and keyboard

  • morse and keyboard

Re: edit

Yes! Embrace the typo. Elevate it to art!

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

moist and keybread

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gnome also has a few nice things that I miss whenever I try kde or cosmic. It really depends on what you need from your DE.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

I do not like cosmic. They remove random features i use a ton.

Like accessing a file address in the address bar. Why. Why can it not show the file path.

Also keyboard shortcuts rarely work. If I extract and archive, I have to mouse it all. No alt+e for extract here, nope.

Also pop shop on popos is horribly optimized.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with the MacOS UI? It works pretty well, and is pretty easy to pick up. Some of the biggest complaining I heard back in the day is that the close/min/max buttons were on the other side and someone who can’t handle that doesn’t have an opinion worth entertaining. Most of it was just a extreme refusal to learn out of spite which is more embarrassing for them than an argument.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I don't hate macOS, and I don't even know if I consider it worse than Windows, but here are a few things I dislike.

  1. Overuse of icons with no clear way to turn on labels combined with a weirdly high time for tooltips to appear makes things confusing.
  2. Finder doesn't have a way to just go up a directory or easily type/get the path of the current folder. The home folder is not in the shortcut area by default.
  3. "Alt tabbing" between windows behaves very differently, though it's not necessarily worse, just different. Command tab switches programs. Command back tick switches windows of that program. So if you want to switch between windows of a browser it is a different shortcut. This one is entirely opinion based. But still, there's no way to change the behavior.
  4. Notifications go away after a very short time period or stay forever. There isn't an easy way to get them to stick around longer without making them stay until you dismiss them. It'd be nice to have a middle ground between a few seconds and forever.
  5. Closing a window doesn't necessarily close a program. Like the "alt tabbing" thing this is opinion based too, because these approaches both technically predate the other approach. Sometimes you close a window and it has a dot on the task bar meaning it's still running. It's very odd.
[–] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

.2. Not the most intuitive, but ctrl+click on the current dir name in the finder window and you get a small little drop down of the current path where you can choose which dir to go to

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Finder is ass, no feature to get filepath, no feature to open location in terminal, no way to go to parent folder (the button that looks like it does this actually is a "back" button that takes you to previous location).

Also you can't quit Finder for some reason. On my Debian VM I can quit Dolphin. Finder is probably embedded to show files on the desktop. (I've never understood having the desktop be a directory, seems like bloat to me.)

Overall the DE is a lot worse than Plasma:

  • Why isn't the Dock (taskbar that eats 300 to 1200 MB of ram) a screen edge for moving windows
  • Why won't you let me customize stuff
  • Why are app actions in the DE top bar rather than the window name bar

It's also a walled garden that intentionally makes compiling apps for it hard for small devs (you need to be verified by apple to have your app not be flagged as "probably a virus")

The only good thing about MacOS is that it is a very stable OS that rarely needs fixing.

I'm installing Asahi Linux as soon as it supports DisplayPort over USB-C.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. I’m not really sure why this is a major sticking point but if you truly cannot find apps because their name isn’t showing then you just need swipe for launchpad and start typing, they’ll show up. If you have that many apps that look the same I’m really not even sure what you’re up to or how you pulled it off.
  2. Correct, this is ass and I have no clue what the hell is going on. I think there is a way but it should be easier, and the default, and it is incredible that it’s been like this for so long.
  3. Sounds like a you problem. There are so many ways to make do it the way that works best for you and with their trackpad, which is objectively better than any other trackpad out there, it’s super easy. You can pull fingers together to show everything on that desktop or uses a few fingers to swap between desktops. You can keep stuff on the side of a desktop, too. There are so many options to make it work and pretty much all of them respond to a simple wave of your hand.
  4. What an odd complaint. It’s a notification just to tell you something is happening that you should then go look for, and you can swipe and see them all so I really don’t understand what the big deal is. I have mine for always on because I can be forgetful, and my phone is set to remind me of texts 3 different times over the course of 0-4min so I don’t miss them.
  5. Yea, sometimes you need to fully quit a program. I can’t exactly say why it does it that way instead of making closing the program instant death but it’s never really bothered me. There Windows programs, for example, that also need to be fully closed but they won’t tell you and will just have a bunch of stuff running that you can see in task manager. It’s not an exclusive quirk it simply just that MacOS doesn’t try to hide it.

Look, despite being largely completely unremarkable in either any positive or negative ways I will concede that Finder does have that major issue in #2 but the rest really aren’t issues, I’m sorry.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, I never really said it was a big deal, I made it very clear. Why are you being so defensive about it lol. Are you a UI designer at Apple or something?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You literally said MacOS was the worst UI you’ve ever worked with. That’s a pretty strong stance, unless you’re hoping I don’t go back only a couple comments.

You literally started it and I’m sorry that I didn’t give you the validation you wanted. I’m not being defensive about it, you’re just wrong and embarrassed and that’s a you problem.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're mistaking me for Seefra 1. I said this.

I don't hate macOS, and I don't even know if I consider it worse than Windows, but here are a few things I dislike.

I did not say it was the worst UI I've ever worked with. There are a ton of things I like about it! I was just sharing a few things I dislike. Even in two of my points I said they were subjective.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough, but that’s why I announce myself when answering a question posed at someone else. Anyway, I’m allowed to defend my position as much as you are allowed to state yours and calling me “defensive” is still kinda weak behaviour.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think what I wanna say is "I’m not being being weak about it, you’re just wrong and embarrassed and that’s a you problem."

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trying to use my own words, which you don’t seem to have fully understood, against me is a choice haha. But hey, at least you recognized that they were poignant enough to try to reuse them.

Argue my points next time, though, it’ll have a stronger effect.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just move on. You're so angry at me and for what? Because I have a few mild complaints about a UI? A UI I said I like? A few things I said were subjective? Wow, something I said is subjective is a me problem? Insightful. You're so hostile for no reason.

This was never an argument because I was never trying to convince anyone of anything. I was sharing my experience about a few things I dislike about something. What argument is there? Are you trying to gaslight me into thinking those things I actually do enjoy?

Go waste your time slap fighting someone else, because I'm blocking you. You're still mad at me even though I'm literally not doing the thing you thought I was nor am I the person you thought I was, and rather than recognize that mistake you still just want to belittle me. Bye.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Buddy how angry do you think I am? Because I responded to your comments? I actually went back assuming maybe I’d gone off a little harder than I remembered and was even kinda surprised that I hadn’t. Are you that thin-skinned? You’re acting like a baby who’s mad that someone said anything that didn’t immediately agree with you.

I don’t know what is happening in your personal life to make you so easy to push but I’m not the one doing it so pump the brakes, chief.