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NATO: Does coups, invasions, genocides, etc. all the time
Non-NATO country: Tries to defend itself against NATO's aggression
Libs: How dare they not roll over for our empire?
The only country NATO invaded was also invaded by Russia. But I guess that was different.
TIL that Iraq, Palestine, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, etc. are all just one country. /s
This is extremely silly. What are you even talking about?
If you are equating Russia with the USSR and think that the USSR invaded Afghanistan, then you should learn some basic facts about the topic, like the fact that the government of Afghanistan requested the USSR's military involvement several times before the latter agreed.
TIL NATO invaded Iran Korea Vietnam Cuba. Lol
Literally a few weeks ago (and probably on other occasions).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
It's honestly amazing how lacking in awareness you are.
NATO is not the US.
NATO is comprised of the US and the US' glorified provinces.
If you want to distance the less major colonial robbers and genocidaires from things like these, you have to demonstrate that they do not assist the US, including that they do not promise to help fight whoever attacks the US in response to such actions.
No. The way this works is you made a false statement. So you are wrong. It doesn't mean I have to prove anything.
Yes.
Conveniently, you can't point to any false statements that I made. All you have is excuses and apologia for your invasions and genocides. Actually, not even that, in this case.
You are yet to point to anything that I am supposedly wrong about.
Meanwhile, you have literally claimed that Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and other countries are all just one country. You have also failed to point to any countries that Russia supposedly 'also invaded'.
NATO is not the US.
The US is, however, a part of NATO, and its de facto owner.
I mean... What is 1 additional lie from you, right?
Haha.
You are yet to point to any lies that I have supposedly said, and you are quite literally now claiming that the US is not a part of NATO. Hilarious.
I did not say the US was not PART of NATO. You are lying again.
You just said that I lied when I pointed out that the US is a part of NATO. So, yes, you did say that the US is not a part of NATO.
You just conveniently can't point to any lies that I have said. /s
You said that I said US was not part of NATO. That is a lie.
Here is the second comment where I said that the US is a part of NATO:
Here is you response to it:
So, yes, you did say that the US was somehow not a part of NATO.
But I didn't. I said: NATO is not the US.
You said that I lied when I said that the US was a part of NATO. That means that you said that the US was not a part of NATO.
Which is completely irrelevant and was never contradicted.
That vague argument could be made, but you are the one now making a claim, and I'd like to see you provide something that shows that, materially speaking, they don't do whatever the US wants like, 90% of the time.
Like obvs there are other countries involved, but ultimately, do they do much without the consent or direction of the US? Like direct, concrete action, and not just fluff?
NATO is dominated by the US. NATO is the alliance of imperialist countries, and the US is the top imperialist country. The US controls the vast majority of NATO, and the secondary members participate insofar as they wish to perpetuate their imperialist dominance as secondary empires.
Your sheer dedication to ensuring that there is absolutely no doubt as to what an utter imbecile you are is truly admirable!
Would you agree that it's 3/4ths the US?
Going to come back to this and point out that you are yet to admit to being wrong about NATO supposedly not invading anybody.
Even if a person were to concede, as you are insisting, that the US does not = NATO (though for all intents and purposes that is effectively true, let's set that aside for now), then that doesn't change the fact that when you said:
You were demonstrating a complete and shameful lack of historical knowledge. That statement is just a ridiculous, ahistorical lie. Formally, undeniably, admittedly even by NATO, these following countries have been invaded by NATO: Yugoslavia, Afghanistan (the only one you seem to be aware of), and Libya. And NATO as an organization admits to "indirect participation" in the invasion of Iraq.
So set aside your other petty derailment arguments about NATO not technically being the US and acknowledge that you were full of shit even before Iran, Korea, Vietnam, and Cuba were brought up.
Edit: Ok, I guess you can't acknowledge it, I see now that you were banned. Well I wasn't holding my breath you were going to anyway. lol