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How Bill Gates is playing both sides of the climate crisis – video (www.theguardian.com)
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Think Bill Gates is fixing the climate crisis? Not if you follow the money. While he funds green innovation and talks about cutting emissions, Gates also invests in dirty industries such as coal, oil and private jets. In this episode, Neelam Tailor exposes how one of the world’s most powerful climate voices is betting on both sides of the crisis – and making a lot of money in the process

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Both? Both sides? Both sides of the climate crisis? My dudes, nobody gets to go live on the Sun under its protection, not even with all the money. There's one side to the climate crisis, and we're all on it.

Oh, I see. He's making money pretending to invest in green technologies, and he's making money polluting the environment. That's the "both sides" they meant. Except those two industries are still both on the same side of the equation. It's like we're all on the Titanic, and Gates is spreading towels over deck chairs AND sitting at a table by the bar, like "Oh no! A guy with all the money is being greedy and dishonest. What should we do?"

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not quite. When you're very rich, you can live the rest of your life in comfort. You and your children won't feel the effects of climate change.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Depends on the severity and the speed of the collapse, but point taken.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 days ago

Sure. But even catastrophic things like pandemics were easy to handle for the billionaire class. As long as they can import food and water from anywhere in the world, they can afford it. There's always going to be places on earth that can still grow food, at least for the next generation.