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The HIROH phone is apparently launching with /e/OS exclusively or before there is an Android version (which is great :)) ♥️

  • 16GB RAM and 512GB of storage expandable up to 2TB, giving you room for everything that matters.
  • A 6.67-inch AMOLED display and a camera system pairs a 108MP Samsung sensor with a 32MP Sony front lens for crisp, striking detail in every shot.
  • A hardware kill switch; disconnected completely the microphone and cameras at the circuit level, leaving nothing open for intrusion.
  • A software-based switch, to easily turn off all your radio signals, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and NFC.

https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/hiroh-phone-powered-by-murena-pre-sale/

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The cost of the device is not being subsidized by all of the bloatware installation income, selling of personal info, etc. I think a lot of people don't realize that inflation really shot through the roof on the last decade and it's only because products are subsidized by the sale of your data and other unethical practices that product prices didn't go up. Food uses shrink-flation to hide inflation, tech uses selling your personal info.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fairphone doesn't have any bloatware either (besides base google apps), yet their phones aren't priced 1k+

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But the specs aren't comparable. The Murena phone is a higher-end device than the Fairphone. And the Fairphone does get incentives/subsidies for the Android version which is one of a few reasons the Android version is cheaper than the version sold with /e/OS.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The /e/OS version of Fairphone 6 is still almost 50% cheaper, while providing slightly higher IP rating, 3 years longer warranty, schematics for board repair and a guarantee of 8 years of software updates. In addition to that, the phone is built ethically.

Murena phone has a faster GPU (2x) and up to 36% faster CPU, but only 2 years of warranty and 5 years of spare parts. Fairphone still has spare displays on sale for Fairphone 2, which came out a decade ago.

Hiroh phone also has a "sustainability" field in the specs, which is nice and empty

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm just talking pure cost to manufacture for each. The cost of the hardware is higher: faster CPU, faster GPU, additional RAM, additional storage, higher end cameras, etc. That is where the cost of the phone comes from, so you can't compare cost of a Fair Phone to this one any more than you can compare the cost of a Pixel 9 to the Pixel 9a. Both have basically the same software, warranty, parts availability, etc., but the 9a was about half the price of the 9 because the "a" series is a lower-end phone overall.

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yeah, no doubt, it's not being subsidized.

low income privacy supporters don't want it subsidized either.

at the same time, they are in fact excluded from this model of phone.

in the universe of possibilities, it's possible to have an affordable phone with privacy intact that serves more communities, at some time in the past or future.

but not from murena, not right now.

tl;dr no duh.